Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[swarfie]

The flash is now infra red. IIs not visible.

That'd be bloody normal...the pricks don't even WANT you to know you've been reamed any more. I'm with you Juniper, spending too much time lookin at my speedo (which is not accurate) rather than concentrating on the pleasure of riding.

[rastuscat]

I'm spending so much time looking down at my speedo just to make sure, rather than just cruising along and going with the flow of traffic !

This is something I've thought about.

I find that I've become good at speed regulation without constantly looking at the speedo. The sensation of speed is very detectable, amd experience makes it quite reliable.

Obviously not infallible. I got pinged at 95 towing a trailer a couple of years ago. My internal cruise control lulled me into that sense that I wasn't going too fast.

I sure don't have to waste my concentration on constantly staring at the speedo. It's just another bullshit red herring from the I-can-beat-the-laws-of-physics lobby.

[pzkpfw]

God I didn't realise how easy it is to creep into the 10km over bracket, or just how often I do it.

This is so annoying. I'm spending so much time looking down at my speedo just to make sure, rather than just cruising along and going with the flow of traffic and relaxing..


Its not paranoia when they are out to get you!

Yes.

Analogue speedo on my bike goes to 260 km/h (goodness knows why ...) in 5/8 of a circle. So 10 km is a tiny smear. I know some blowhards like to claim any driver or rider who can't stick to one speed is somehow defective, but the way a bike (like mine or any) can change speeds so easily; 10 km drift in speeds is pretty normal. And 100 to 110 km is where I prefer to stay because if I'm in the 95 to 105 range (or lower) I'll get some car trying to give me a prostate exam.

(I've been pinged in my car doing 116 km/h. No argument from me *; that's beyond drift into "I should have been able to avoid" territory. (* Except the usual "but it wasn't unsafe ... waaa waaa..."))

[swbarnett]

This is something I've thought about.

I find that I've become good at speed regulation without constantly looking at the speedo. The sensation of speed is very detectable, amd experience makes it quite reliable.

My wife tried it for a while. After several near misses she gave up in favour of her own safety.

I sure don't have to waste my concentration on constantly staring at the speedo. It's just another bullshit red herring from the I-can-beat-the-laws-of-physics lobby.

Now that you mention the laws of physics, why do we have the same speed limit for a beat up old bomb that barely passes a WOF and the latest 5-star safety rated technological marvel?

[Scuba_Steve]

I sure don't have to waste my concentration on constantly staring at the speedo. It's just another bullshit red herring from the I-can-beat-the-laws-of-physics lobby.

No, no it's not. Are you saying you can dive/ride a multitude of different vehicles with different acceleration resistance & wind noise etc at correct speed without looking at your speedo? are you saying you can accelerate from an intersection to the correct speed & maintain it without looking at your speedo? you saying you can hit different winds, hills, slopes, dips etc without needing to look at your speedo?

I'm willing for you to put your money where your mouth is if you want; let me borrow your scam gun & scam issuer we'll cover your speedo & I'll follow you for a day issuing a scam ticket every time you breech the limit then we can tally up what you owe at the end of day... I might even get a toaster or donut maker out of it

As for the whole physics thing short of limiting trucks to 20km/h, SUVs to 40km/h & cars to 60km/h that arguments moot

[Jay GTI]

This is something I've thought about.

I find that I've become good at speed regulation without constantly looking at the speedo. The sensation of speed is very detectable, amd experience makes it quite reliable.

Obviously not infallible. I got pinged at 95 towing a trailer a couple of years ago. My internal cruise control lulled me into that sense that I wasn't going too fast.

I sure don't have to waste my concentration on constantly staring at the speedo. It's just another bullshit red herring from the I-can-beat-the-laws-of-physics lobby.

You're quite good with the propaganda. Unfortunately, much like my "constantly see", it's an empty statement. Fit an accurate speed-tracking GPS device to your vehicles, monitor your driving over a week (or more) and then tell us you are capable of accurately judging you speed. Independent corroboration of your "facts" please, otherwise you're just making shit up.

[willytheekid]

This is something I've thought about.

I find that I've become good at speed regulation without constantly looking at the speedo. The sensation of speed is very detectable, amd experience makes it quite reliable.

Obviously not infallible. I got pinged at 95 towing a trailer a couple of years ago. My internal cruise control lulled me into that sense that I wasn't going too fast.

I sure don't have to waste my concentration on constantly staring at the speedo. It's just another bullshit red herring from the I-can-beat-the-laws-of-physics lobby.

You not had coffee?...last in line for the sugar donuts this morning??

...cos that post just REEKS of double standards and self contradiction!

"I find that I've become good at speed regulation without constantly looking at the speedo. The sensation of speed is very detectable, amd experience makes it quite reliable"

Then immediately state:
"Obviously not infallible, I got pinged at 95 towing a trailer a couple of years ago. My internal cruise control lulled me into that sense that I wasn't going too fast"

THEN!!...go on to have a shot a fellow KBers for sharing there experiance's & concerns thus far, while clinging to the already self-disproven fact that you can regulate your own speed without looking at the speedo!

"I sure don't have to waste my concentration on constantly staring at the speedo. It's just another bullshit red herring from the I-can-beat-the-laws-of-physics lobby"




...go find a coffee and donut mate...even your spelling sucks this morning

ps...please "scam" the ticket & post it on here...scummy will be impressed at such a fast responce lol

pps..I don't give a shit about the 4k limit personally...I tend to focus primarily on survival!...and if I have to break a few "minor traffic laws" in the process, so be it! (I don't watch the speedo very much...the threats on the road around me tend to take most of my focus sorry)...that and I still ride for the shear enjoyment & fun of it all (remember that?)

[Juniper]

To somewhat come to his rescue I can approximately tell what speed I'm going, but I don't have an internal radar to tell the difference between 50km 54km and 58km. Which is why I keep finding myself creeping up without realising.

I think we all can TO A DEGREE. I'd be able to tell if I'm going 80 in a 50km zone lol.

My default now is to sit in 6th, cause then I know I've got no real power to go any faster without thinking about it.

I was talking to a cop the other day (ok the cop was talking to us as she'd just pulled a friend over) and she said that they have whole days where they target riders. Since then I've felt paranoid that they are out to get me.

On the other hand I was overtaking an undercover cop the other week and as I usually do I like to look into peoples windows and he turned with a big cheesy grin and waved at me, so I girl waved back and continued at 100-110km past him. He just continued rocking along at 95km and never bothered me.

[Zedder]

The debate on an open road speed limit has been going on in Oz's Northern Territory for over 5 years.

However, I applaude them because they at least are trialling a period of no speed limit. All the rhetoric and theory etc will finally be reduced to an empirical experience.

[willytheekid]

To somewhat come to his rescue I can approximately tell what speed I'm going, but I don't have an internal radar to tell the difference between 50km 54km and 58km. Which is why I keep finding myself creeping up without realising.

I think we all can TO A DEGREE. I'd be able to tell if I'm going 80 in a 50km zone lol.

My default now is to sit in 6th, cause then I know I've got no real power to go any faster without thinking about it.

I was talking to a cop the other day (ok the cop was talking to us as she'd just pulled a friend over) and she said that they have whole days where they target riders. Since then I've felt paranoid that they are out to get me.

On the other hand I was overtaking an undercover cop the other week and as I usually do I like to look into peoples windows and he turned with a big cheesy grin and waved at me, so I girl waved back and continued at 100-110km past him. He just continued rocking along at 95km and never bothered me.

Yup, we can all "approximately" judge our speed...but thats the issue at hand.
The new "tolerance" really exceeds that ability, and it also goes directly against the current laws that state that vehical manufacturers are allowed X level of acuracy in regards to speed accuracy...so its really just a luck thing if you actually get caught (But, as scummy stated...If anyone actually gets a ticket issued, its more than likely not gonna be for 4-5k over...well, except for Rastuscat and his trailer lol)

Just stick to focusing on your own safety mate, not avoiding tickets for minor traffic infringments....we all know if we are "really" speeding or riding dangerously, and so do the police...and thats there primary focus!, getting the real threats off the road to ensure our safety...I just wish they could make the courts actually hand out "real" sentances (All that hard friggin work, just to be ridiculed by a BS justice system)

as for coming to Rastuscats rescue...he's a big boy mate, and he knows I have nothing but respect for him and the police
...but he's also a senior KBer, hence he knows that if you post shit!...you get shit! (If he has an issue, Im sure he can find me for a road side berating lol)
But alot on here fail to understand that he's a police Sarg!, so he can't just jump online and Publicly object to the very job he is paid to do! (And at least he is engaging us in the subject...we gotta give him respect for that!)

Ride safe Juniper, and have a safe & merry xmas

[James Deuce]

What is WRONG with you, Willy?

[Big Dave]

What is WRONG with you, Willy?

'alot'

[Gremlin]

That'd be bloody normal...the pricks don't even WANT you to know you've been reamed any more.

That's actually a good thing. I was leading a ride one night, came over the brow of a hill and got flashed (but I don't think I was speeding, and there was never any follow up, so being flashed was surprising in itself). Anyway, that flash, at night, was pretty disorientating for a second or two and messed with my night vision. Nice and safe at 100kph eh?

[GrayWolf]

It's really easy for the management to make a media statement about how we'll be rigidly enforcing the 4 kmh tolerance.

It's another issue altogether to get the troops to buy into it.

Sorry Rastus,
while I accept I was 'speeding' and am not going to spew over injustice..

I was behind a queue of cars (8or9) nose to tail traveling between 90- 95kph. No room to overtake in stages, as insufficient gap between cars.. on a straight, clear section of road I overtook them. Of course typically as I was level with the last car, round the corner comes on of NZ's finest. Now had I exceeded 112km's I would in fact have overtaken, and been clear of, with speed reduced to sub 110 by the time the 'disco lights' came round the bend..

So a ticket for 112 was duly issued.

I travel to work all different times of day, literally, different times each day, and already this week, there are crocodiles traveling sub 100kph, with others traveling in the overtaking lane at same/similar speeds. I can see only frustration is going to arise from this 2 months 'intolerance' and I will be astounded if there are not increases in 'road rage' fueled accidents.

[Akzle]

for all the pissing and moaning. here's what's going to happen:
fuckall.
life will go on as usual.

as much as i'd like to see the drains run with blood and piled with the charred remains of four wheeled things, there will be exactly no more, or less crashes than at any other time. ever.

now. can y'all fuck up about it.