OK, I did read it, and also the fact sheet on Credible limits that it links to http://www.swov.nl/rapport/Factsheet...ble_limits.pdf
where it says "Credible speed limits also have the desired effect on driving speed behaviour: a credible speed limit is obeyed better." New Zealand's speed enforcement as given via media releases is no longer credible.
I also notice that it is a Netherland's study and is contrary to this Canadian report "Review and Analysis of Posted Speed Limits and Speed Limit Setting Practices in British Columbia".
Also the document "Speed Zone Guidelines A Proposed Recommended Practice" which is an attchment to the Canadian report recommends that speed limits should be set at the 85th percentile of speeds that drivers would drive at if speed limits were NOT enforced.
Last edited by Jantar; 9th December 2013 at 19:32.
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What the hell's the point of posting the size of your dick/brain on here?
Hmm, that is a good point but wouldn't that depend a lot on the culture surrounding the speed limit as well?
One other thing NZ is let down on compared to overseas are road conditions, they are crap.
I was all for open speed limits and the like when I was younger, and then when I actually drove on the Autobahn I realized the massive difference in road conditions and (somewhat) the lack of general driving ability here in NZ in comparison (such as decent gaps left, not rushing to cut people off/space made for cars/trucks to change into your lane).
This bit was interesting:
"It must be noted, however, that the relation between speed and crash rate is much less direct and much more complicated than the relation between speed and crash severity."
I may be reaching, but is that more or less saying you can cherry pick statistics to show that speed is dangerous because when some muppet crossing the road without judging traffic correctly in a 80 or 100km h zone and gets squashed, it goes down as a tragic death, where as if said muppet did the same at 20 or 40km h the Darwin award wouldn't get handed out and as such, statistically, stupidity is deemed safer?
I know I'm cherry picking an example myself, but it makes me feel better
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