Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[swbarnett]

The Auckland City Traffic Dept (pre merger with the MoT) used to have a thing called Truvelo. It was the same principle, but the calibrated distance was only 1.025 metres.

I remember them. To this day I'm weary of traffic counters because of it.

I knew guys that would skid their rear wheel and snap the cables.

[rastuscat]

Memory just cleared a bit. The truvelo gap was 1.525 metres. The .025 was an allowance, the correct gap was 1.500 metres.

Anyone ever get tagged by a County Mountie? Last 5 citys to have mobile traffic cops before the merger with the MoT were Auckland City, Tamaki City, Mount Albert, Napier and Invercargill.

[rastuscat]

I remember them. To this day I'm weary of traffic counters because of it.

I knew guys that would skid their rear wheel and snap the cables.

All the time I operated them I wondered why that didn't happen, but it never did.

[Scuba_Steve]

Mr R.Cat (or anyone else with respective knowledge) would you happen to know how many lives the speed scam is "predicted to save" each year?

[chasio]

Even Stuff is calling them out for blatantly excluding data that doesn't support the propaganda.

[Jantar]

Nostalgia.

The MoT used to have a thing called Digitector. Two cables set 25 metres apart on the highway. A vehicle crossed the first one, starting a clock. when it crossed the second one, it stopped the clock. The machine then worked out the speed.
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I also remember those. 25 m was just the right distance to wind on the throttle and pull back on the bars a bit to just lift the front wheel clear of the ground. Tripping the first cable with the front wheel and the second cable with the rear wheel dropped the apparent speed by around 6%. Not a lot, but could mean the difference between getting a ticket or not getting one.

[Tazz]

Even Stuff is calling them out for blatantly excluding data that doesn't support the propaganda.

Hardly surprising.
I posted something a few pages back quoting a road safety campaign manager who claimed 80% of fatalities occurred at speeds below the legal limit. It is just logical to focus on that 20% really isn't it...
I'm not saying that as something being in line with 'shouldn't you be out catching rapists' and the like, but if you're going to throw a bunch of money at campaigns like this you'd think the 80% where deaths are occurring would be the obvious place were you would start and possibly achieve results a lot easier?

Maybe their campaign team were originally from the old highway patrol

Feck, we've come a long way. I used to go out with a ticket book and a crash pad. No baton. No pepper spray. No taser. I actually didn't feel less safe. Chases were an every day event, far less now.

You guys just got too good at catching people to make it worth the effort with all the tech these days I'd guess. Spoil sports :P

[buggerit]

Hardly surprising.
I posted something a few pages back quoting their own road safety campaign manager who claimed 80% of fatalities occurred at speeds below the legal limit. It is just logical to focus on that 20% really isn't it...
I'm not saying that as something being in line with 'shouldn't you be out catching rapists' and the like, but if you're going to throw a bunch of money at campaigns like this you'd think the 80% where deaths are occurring would be the obvious place were you would start and possibly achieve results a lot easier?

Maybe their campaign team were originally from the old highway patrol



You guys just got too good at catching people to make it worth the effort with all the tech these days I'd guess. Spoil sports :P

So it seems obvious, if we can keep our speeds above 100 we can reduce the road toll 80%,win win

[george formby]

I guess the policies are more about reducing the injuries from accidents rather than reducing the number of accidents. No doubt lower overall speeds will drop the number of accidents somewhat but a lesser impact speed will create significantly more dents than injuries which is what the stats seem to argue. We never hear about the accidents where nobody is hurt. Having to drive slower will not improve the standard of driving.

The countries with the lowest road tolls regardless of geography, road condition or population have the most stringent & expensive licensing systems.

It will be interesting to see how the new licensing system will affect our road toll, gonna take awhile but better educated drivers/riders are safer.

[Zedder]

Hardly surprising.
I posted something a few pages back quoting their own road safety campaign manager who claimed 80% of fatalities occurred at speeds below the legal limit. It is just logical to focus on that 20% really isn't it...
I'm not saying that as something being in line with 'shouldn't you be out catching rapists' and the like, but if you're going to throw a bunch of money at campaigns like this you'd think the 80% where deaths are occurring would be the obvious place were you would start and possibly achieve results a lot easier?

Maybe their campaign team were originally from the old highway patrol

The guy you quoted isn't "their" own road safety campaign manager. He was speaking out about the lower tolerance etc as he often does.

[Tazz]

So it seems obvious, if we can keep our speeds above 100 we can reduce the road toll 80%,win win

I'm down with that. You could carefully tie it in with the 'but officer I'm only averaging 100km/h' line. Speeding saves!

The countries with the lowest road tolls regardless of geography, road condition or population have the most stringent & expensive licensing systems.

Don't think expense is a good deterrent, but stricter or at least more compulsory lessons etc are something I'd be more than happy to do for a reasonable limit, tolerance, and of course to save lives (so long as Darwin still gets his cut )

The guy you quoted isn't "their" own road safety campaign manager. He was speaking out about the lower tolerance etc as he often does.

Well spotted. My bad. I assumed completely wrong from the way the article was written
Regardless whoever their campaign manager is, they suck XD

[Zedder]

Well spotted. My bad. I assumed completely wrong from the way the article was written
Regardless whoever their campaign manager is, they suck XD

The lack of the prefix NZ Transport Agency or NZ Police, to the third paragraph starting with "Road safety campaigner..." probably misguided you.

[Tazz]

The lack of the prefix NZ Transport Agency or NZ Police, to the third paragraph starting with "Road safety campaigner..." probably misguided you.

I'm often misguided. Keeps life interesting, and you entertained =)

[Zedder]

I'm often misguided. Keeps life interesting, and you entertained =)

You entertain me? Don't flatter yourself.

[scumdog]

Nostalgia.

The MoT used to have a thing called Digitector. Two cables set 25 metres apart on the highway. A vehicle crossed the first one, starting a clock. when it crossed the second one, it stopped the clock. The machine then worked out the speed.

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Yup, one got me back in '87 dang it!