Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[R650R]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11180340

Once again showing that the average NZ Herald reader is fucking clueless and shouldn't be allowed on the roads. The very fact that people are unwilling to do or exceed the 100kph limit in the fast lane demonstrates that they have no idea why motorway fast lanes exist in the first place

I really shouldn't be surprised if this 'trial' becomes regular practice. Maybe I'll just up and move to a less transport-fucktarded country

That's a bit rough on Herald readers... What it really is says is that two thirds or respondants know that in a fatal crash the police will delve deeply into their personal life and find this snippet of data in their online history that might keep them out of jail. I hate the way these online polls are worded too, often their biased from the start and their isn't much choice amongst the options.
A good example of how much our 'news' is actually biased opinion pieces rather than equally factual reporting from opposing camps.
BTW the motorway 'fastlane' is an urban myth from the days when the freshly built infrastructure was operating below capacity. The fastlane now is the safety lane for people who cant drive, they sit their up against that big concrete safety blanket thinking they can control the flow of traffic and only get hit from one side, and boy are they wrong! There should be a law that covers "Failing to drive like the other 85% do" which would also cover people like the zoo animal I was following yesterday near town who obviously couldn't afford the petrol for his shiney v8 commodore and had to idle everywhere holding up traffic.
While some motorists dream of being racers it seems being the pace car driver is equally fantasised about LOL...

[R650R]

And to add to that http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9570...goes-over-bank
You'll see a link to some dangerous roads blog. Plenty of people here will have travelled SH5 enough to read that the quoted description is a total joke!
Went to the blog to comment as others had and it seems to be crashing with the traffic.

[Mo NZ]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11180340

I really shouldn't be surprised if this 'trial' becomes regular practice.

That was always going to happen. The short period was the thin edge of the wedge.

[bluninja]

That was always going to happen. The short period was the thin edge of the wedge.

Well I looked at the current online poll stats (4500 respondents) and it seemed that there were 56% didn't want a 4 kmh tolerance all year round. Interesting spin though.....

"The poll showed that two-thirds of respondents felt that the policy was fair because it was about safety"

[scumdog]

Bring back the open road speed limit of 80kph - then give 'em a 15kph tolerance.

THAT would keep everybody happy eh!

[R650R]

Bring back the open road speed limit of 80kph - then give 'em a 15kph tolerance.

THAT would keep everybody happy eh!

Yep long as we have all the other 80's stuff to make it legit, like MK4 cortinas for the cops, no speed cameras, no random wof and rego checks masquerading as drink drive checkpoints, double figure rego fees, leaded petrol, cross ply tyres and mullet haircuts...

[Ocean1]

Bring back the open road speed limit of 80kph - then give 'em a 15kph tolerance.

THAT would keep everybody happy eh!

Nah. Bring back the 60mph limit with a tolerance that accommodates most instrumentation error and you might get some traction.

When you do I'll be almost legal. Mostly.

[Angel_of_Metal]

BTW the motorway 'fastlane' is an urban myth from the days when the freshly built infrastructure was operating below capacity.

Not true, The autobahns in Germany show quite well that there is a 'fastlane'. Outside of the cities in the areas where the speed is unlimited there are qutie often signs showing 'minimum speeds' for each individual lane, with the third/outermost lane being the highest minimum speed (iirc being 180kph), and the other two lanes being proportionally lower

Although that was interesting to read about that part about people assuming they were protected having a wall on one side rather than another lane. I've never thought of that before and you are quite right in saying that that doesn't necessarily mean greater safety at all

[Mo NZ]

I think the real and unspoken gain comes about from more driver attention or vigilance so to speak.
In Oz I think for instance there is double demerits on long weekends, which achieves the same enhanced driver attention.

If it becomes the norm some drivers will relax back into "bad driving behaviour"
Rather than adopt the newer tolerance full-time it should be used intermittently, as it will have a more desirable, long term effect.

[swbarnett]

I think the real and unspoken gain comes about from more driver attention or vigilance so to speak.

Yeah, of the speedo.

[R650R]

Not true, The autobahns in Germany show quite well that there is a 'fastlane'. Outside of the cities in the areas where the speed is unlimited there are qutie often signs showing 'minimum speeds' for each individual lane, with the third/outermost lane being the highest minimum speed (iirc being 180kph), and the other two lanes being proportionally lower

Although that was interesting to read about that part about people assuming they were protected having a wall on one side rather than another lane. I've never thought of that before and you are quite right in saying that that doesn't necessarily mean greater safety at all

Yeah in certain first world countries with much more better infrastructure and better training that does happen but even though motorways worldwide are supposed to be a set standard the euro stuff is generally a bar or two above our setups...
I went and lived in Auckland for about 3 years, that was one of the first things I noticed about some drivers on mway. When friends or family visited from the bay and other small provinces I noticed many of them were overwhelmed by having two lanes of other traffic to worry about

[Mo NZ]

I think the real and unspoken gain comes about from more driver attention or vigilance so to speak.
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Yeah, of the speedo.

BIG SIGH
I guess one day you may discover that safer riding is much more than matching your speedo to the maximum speed.

[oneofsix]

BIG SIGH
I guess one day you may discover that safer riding is much more than matching your speedo to the maximum speed.

did someone miss the sarcasm font? If you manage to convince the then you will be onto something.

[roogazza]

Here's a question for someone, What ever happened to the Limited Speed Zones of a few years ago now ?
Modern Society now, probably couldn't make a decision regarding appropriate speed ?

[haydes55]

Here's a question for someone, What ever happened to the Limited Speed Zones of a few years ago now ?

I guess it's expecting too much of something like that on the open road.

Modern Society now, probably couldn't make a decision regarding appropriate speed ?

LSZ are a stupid idea really. If you go over 100km/h you get a ticket anyway.

LSZs are supposed to be in areas where the road is a risk to travel at 100km/h in poor conditions, so ideally needed different speed limits for rain or sunny days. But if a corner is too sharp/slippery/dangerous to take at 100km/h, you slow down regardless of whether it's a LSZ or a 100km/h zone.

I'd suggest LSZ vs 100km/h speed zones didn't have any noticeable Change in road toll so LSZ would have been canned.