Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[zeocen]

Nicely put. A well constructed final sentence or two.

Now, back to normal discussions with reason and logic.

Your discussions, reasons and logic are just as ludicrous. Please don't act like you're an authority on education.

[R650R]

Actually discussing this over a few beers at the club yesterday some of us came to the conclusion that nothings changed really. The previous tolerance was just some pseudo public relations exercise that could be ignored if the cop wanted to and the bad ones are still free to make stuff up just like in the movies... And if you previously cruised around the 110 tolerance you probably did xxx km/h while overtaking anyway. Lets hope someone dying in a real emergency isn't denied help because the call centre is swamped by *555 calls about someone overtaking at 105km/h http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11158462 Looks like they had already made the decision few weeks back and aware of the ramifications "...They had cut the numbers of 111 and *555 communication centre staff by "natural attrition" - but up to 18 are now being hired back on casual contracts to deal with an extra 35,000 calls already logged this year, and a further upsurge expected to swamp police over summer..."

[roogazza]

[QUOTE=Tazz;1130644479]You'd have fail the attitude test horribly or get an absolute dick of a cop to get handed a ticket for doing 105?

I don't know so much nowdays ? It doesn't seem that discretion comes into it so much with the modern gen traffic cop ? For that matter for the GD police either from what I'm hearing.
From their side of it, they are dealing with the average person who doesn't have the respect once held with the police either.

[Zedder]

Actually discussing this over a few beers at the club yesterday some of us came to the conclusion that nothings changed really. The previous tolerance was just some pseudo public relations exercise that could be ignored if the cop wanted to and the bad ones are still free to make stuff up just like in the movies... And if you previously cruised around the 110 tolerance you probably did xxx km/h while overtaking anyway. Lets hope someone dying in a real emergency isn't denied help because the call centre is swamped by *555 calls about someone overtaking at 105km/h http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11158462 Looks like they had already made the decision few weeks back and aware of the ramifications "...They had cut the numbers of 111 and *555 communication centre staff by "natural attrition" - but up to 18 are now being hired back on casual contracts to deal with an extra 35,000 calls already logged this year, and a further upsurge expected to swamp police over summer..."

Nah, it'll be sweet as. The lowering of the tolerance is such a "magic bullet" that there won't be any problems. Those casual workers will just be coffee and donut waiters.

Meanwhile in real crime, if you're an ex gang member who repeatedly punches a cop, whose in a car with his family, you only get 110 hours community service. Somethings really really wrong here.

[awa355]

Followed a police car into Te Awamutu this afternoon. Through the dip within the 50k zone the cop car accelerated away from me, ( I was possibly doing about 53.5kph at the time ). He pulled over a bit further on and stopped.

I can only assume he was writing himself a speeding ticket.

[Scuba_Steve]

It's good to see this is working already, I travel at off peak times yet it's like I'm back travelling in peak with roads more congested & dangerous than they need be with higher levels of road rage building up & tail gating oh the tail gating
... Operation slower dangerous roads is coming together nicely!

[rastuscat]

Followed a police car into Te Awamutu this afternoon. Through the dip within the 50k zone the cop car accelerated away from me, ( I was possibly doing about 53.5kph at the time ). He pulled over a bit further on and stopped.

I can only assume he was writing himself a speeding ticket.

It's really easy for the management to make a media statement about how we'll be rigidly enforcing the 4 kmh tolerance.

It's another issue altogether to get the troops to buy into it.

[Tazz]

It's good to see this is working already, I travel at off peak times yet it's like I'm back travelling in peak with roads more congested & dangerous than they need be with higher levels of road rage building up & tail gating oh the tail gating
... Operation slower dangerous roads is coming together nicely!

I'm definitely not all for such a low tolerance, but peoples utter stupidity and lack of patience can hardly be blamed on the Police force.

Not saying I'm perfect, but if the worst things in life that happen to you are people going slower than you would like to on the road and it is worth getting fired up over, then maybe it is time to re-evaluate things a little

Sometimes I think people just need to take a second and remember that as soon as you pass that person in front holding 'everyone' up, you're only going to end up behind another, or a truck, or a tractor, or the council cutting the grass/trees on the side of the road, wildlife, road works, good looking joggers, accidents and the list goes on, so why get so worked up?

[Zedder]

It's really easy for the management to make a media statement about how we'll be rigidly enforcing the 4 kmh tolerance.

It's another issue altogether to get the troops to buy into it.

That tells ya something then rtc. Mind you, they aren't then carrying out their duty as sworn members of the police force. Break out the wet bus tickets!

Heh, imagine if the armed forces worked that way? Optional shooting of the enemy...

[swbarnett]

Heh, imagine if the armed forces worked that way? Optional shooting of the enemy...

I've been told that only 10% of the bullets fired in the American civil war were actually aimed at anyone.

[swbarnett]

I'm definitely not all for such a low tolerance, but peoples utter stupidity and lack of patience can hardly be blamed on the Police force.

What I beileve he's getting at is that the traffic had effectively found the "sweet spot" where most of it was in harmony. Now that some drivers are looking at their speedos instead of what's around them this harmony is gone.

[chasio]

It's really easy for the management to make a media statement about how we'll be rigidly enforcing the 4 kmh tolerance.

It's another issue altogether to get the troops to buy into it.

Long may discretion reign. But all the reportedly low tolerance cameras lack it.

No doubt the pollies will declare the "trial" a great success (unless there is utter carnage; hopefully not) and once the cameras have been changed, what are the chances of changing them back in February? Pretty slim.

Still, the local camera seemed disinterested in pinging the stream of 60km/h traffic going past it today, unless the flash is invisible these days(?)

[Zedder]

I've been told that only 10% of the bullets fired in the American civil war were actually aimed at anyone.

The lack of shooting is understandable in a civil war, I would have thought it would be higher actually.

However, I read somewhere it was 15-20% of US troops didn't fire at the enemy in WW2.

[Zedder]

Long may discretion reign. But all the reportedly low tolerance cameras lack it.

No doubt the pollies will declare the "trial" a great success (unless there is utter carnage; hopefully not) and once the cameras have been changed, what are the chances of changing them back in February? Pretty slim.

Still, the local camera seemed disinterested in pinging the stream of 60km/h traffic going past it today, unless the flash is invisible these days(?)

There's lots more cops than cameras of course so they can get more revenue from traffic stops with other offences happening.

It probably won't be long before there's a camera that can sense alcohol, drugs and not wearing seat belts etc.

[Murray]

Sometimes I think people just need to take a second and remember that as soon as you pass that person in front holding 'everyone' up, you're only going to end up behind the council cutting the grass/trees on the side of the road, so why get so worked up?

Won't happen in Auckland