Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[Gremlin]

Yeah, but even Akzle is entitled to voice his view.

That's the freaken problem with democracy...

[Zedder]

Without knowing it you've posted the perfect argument for speed enforcement.

Welcome to the fold, brother.

SMIRK.....

Lol! One point out of the whole range in the discussion.

There's been much posted on here against the issue but you just cherry pick the ones you want to reply to anyway.

It's like discussing Military Doctrine with a frontline soldier.

[scumdog]

Well that is good to hear! and it's obviously working as not long ago you were saying just shut up and take it cos whining on kb will make feck all difference, won't change a thing, and is just so much a waste of time...

Hey, you're onto it!

So why do so many rant on KB about shit like this? and so often too...

[bogan]

Hey, you're onto it!

So why do so many rant on KB about shit like this? and so often too...

What, would you rather they let us out to interact with people in real life?

Lesser of two evils mate

[Tazz]

Ticket for 105. Yes. 105.

Okay, bring on the derision.

Was it you or another cop on here that said to post up a ticket for 105 (or maybe it was 104) as they didn't think it would be likely people would be getting them?

Surprised you're in that area though. That Leeston cop does a pretty good job of patrolling those parts.

[Zedder]

Hey, you're onto it!

So why do so many rant on KB about shit like this? and so often too...

Lol again! One says debate about it is healthy while the other calls it ranting.

[Scuba_Steve]

Ticket for 105. Yes. 105.

Okay, bring on the derision.

So what, you were getting worried that with all the red light safety patrols your division of the gang usually does you were potentially saving too many lives so you thought you'd go out & balance it today by killing a few?
Congratulations on making the roads a more dangerous place for everyone

Without knowing it you've posted the perfect argument for speed enforcement.

Welcome to the fold, brother.

SMIRK.....

What so you're ultimate goal is to have traffic at standstill? any speed above that you've killed your whole argument

[Stirts]

I was sticking out like a bacon, likely to be why I got so few speeds. Like, one. By deduction I got somone who wasn't paying attention.

So if it makes you feel better., think of thr ticket as one for someone not paying attention.

Fixed it for you

sorry the temptation was just too great

[swbarnett]

Without knowing it you've posted the perfect argument for speed enforcement.

Welcome to the fold, brother.

SMIRK.....

That assumes that the speed limit is "slow enough". Far from it. Afterall, it has been said that 80% of all fatalities occurr under the speed limit.

To be slow enough we need to be travelling at a speed where the resultant impact to the body is lower than 8kph (the speed at which a bone will break). This would result in an open road speed limit of probably about 30kph. Lower if you consider head-on collisions.

in all practicality it is not possible for the vehicle fleet to always travel slow enough to avoid all injury.

[swbarnett]

Your point is well made Citizen.

We need to allow for the movement of people and goods around the roading network in order to allow our society to function. Thing is, we need to have some rules to try to avoid the movement from becoming disproportionately dangerous.

And there's the rub. Why does one small group assume that they have the right to decide for me how to achieve this?

And we live in the now, with what we have.

That's all very well if you happen to agree with the now that is imposed on you. If you don't you're shit out of luck.

[swbarnett]

Lets see. Public votes for gubbermint. Gubbermint passes law. Gubbermint expects Popos to enforce law, pays them to do it. Popo Bosses set policy. Policy gets enforced.

That's the best case of Chinese whispers I've ever seen. No way can the police claim that they have a mandate from the majority of the population for any law that they enforce.

Put each new law to a binding referendum and maybe then a mandate has been given.

[rastuscat]

That's the best case of Chinese whispers I've ever seen. No way can the police claim that they have a mandate from the majority of the population for any law that they enforce.

Put each new law to a binding referendum and maybe then a mandate has been given.

Sorry. It's the system we have here and now. Until it changes, it's how we roll.

[swbarnett]

That's the freaken problem with democracy...

The problem with democracy is that as low as 50.1% of the population can impose a behaviour pattern on the remaining 49.9%. Even when letting the 49.9% choose their own preferred behaviour pattern has absolutely no ill effect on the 50.1%.

Now, in the NZ parliamentary democracy, as little as 61 people (0.0013%) can decide behaviour patterns for the other 4,432,939 (as at 2012).

[swbarnett]

Sorry. It's the system we have here and now. Until it changes, it's how we roll.

That attitude is why it is so hard to change it. Most people are content with "good enough" and don't give two shits about the minorities in the population that just want to live their lives in their own way to the detriment of noone.

[eelracing]

it's how we roll.

Goodone.

Does that roll come with lashings of cream and cinnamon?
Well chug it down and get back to work you fat bastard.