Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[scumdog]

If you (police in general) actually took the circumstances into account instead of blindly applying the letter of the law, you'd get more sympathy^*.



^*And probably more compliance because your message would be more believable.

We're not after sympathy - so sling the shit if makes you happy. (or even if it doesn't)


And EVERYBODY has an excuse as to why they 'had' to cut the corner...

[swbarnett]

Can we stop using this statistic? it's not true and a pointless statistic even if it were true.

How so pointless?

And if you've got a reference to what the actual figure is please let us know.

[Dave-]

OK, what is the correct statistic? Show us and I'll certainly use it instead.

I dunno, burden of proof is on the person asserting the claim.

I doubt a correct statistic even exists.

How so pointless?

And if you've got a reference to what the actual figure is please let us know.

It's pointless because it's so ambiguous. Millions of people have died below the speed limit, people have been dying at speeds lower than the speed limit for thousands of years!

[swbarnett]

We're not after sympathy - so sling the shit if makes you happy. (or even if it doesn't)

I mean sympathy in the sense that you have people on side agreeing with your application of the law.

And EVERYBODY has an excuse as to why they 'had' to cut the corner...

I have cut a few corners when visibility etc. was up to the task (like is taught by the UK police). I've never needed to.

[Gremlin]

I have cut a few corners when visibility etc. was up to the task (like is taught by the UK police). I've never needed to.

I know the UK does this, but it isn't legal in NZ.

[scumdog]

I have cut a few corners when visibility etc. was up to the task (like is taught by the UK police). I've never needed to.

You do what you want - but I doubt many who had a head-on while cutting a corner ever thought they had anything but 'visibility up to the task'.

[Gremlin]

You do what you want - but I doubt many who had a head-on while cutting a corner ever thought they had anything but 'visibility up to the task'.

Well, one of the problems with NZ roads is you think you have clear visibility, meanwhile, there's a blind dip or the like...

Having had a close shave making the mistake above, now I won't overtake until I KNOW it's clear visibility, by seeing the whole road surface... Never assume... Also, often bikers seem to expect any oncoming vehicle to be a slow moving truck, when it could equally be a fast moving bike. Now think how much space you really have, to overtake.

[scumdog]

when it could equally be a fast moving bike.

Who'd a thunk THAT could ever happen???

[Gremlin]

Who'd a thunk THAT could ever happen???

Good point. They're not going any faster than 104 for the next 1.5 months

[Zedder]

Research on raised speed limits without significant rise in fatalities:http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...152.x/abstract

[scumdog]

Research on raised speed limits without significant rise in fatalities:http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...152.x/abstract

LIke NZ did back in the mid-80's? - from 80kph to 100kph?



I bet if the limit was 180kph there would still be people whinging about the ticket they got for 'only' 190kph...

[Zedder]

LIke NZ did back in the mid-80's? - from 80kph to 100kph?
I bet if the limit was 180kph there would still be people whinging about the ticket they got for 'only' 190kph...

Yeah the mid 80s when there was also a large increase in drink driving offences.

Nah, at 190kmph you lot couldn't catch them...

[Madness]

I bet if the limit was 180kph there would still be people whinging about the ticket they got for 'only' 190kph...

I'd be whinging more about the price of petrol. My bike fair drinks the stuff at 190.

[pritch]

ASo...Grasshopper, how did you come by this wisdom, this awareness of people not being prosecuted for 'cutting blind corners'???

SD, in my recent experience, as noted earlier in this thread, it would appear some of your colleagues are among the worst offenders?

[Jantar]

..
I bet if the limit was 180kph there would still be people whinging about the ticket they got for 'only' 190kph...

The Canadian report on speed limits, linked to earlier in this thread, showed that even when there was a substantial increase in speed limits the average speed driven at only rose slightly. if the speed limit is set at what 85% of people are comfortable driving below, then accidents decrease, not because people are driving faster, but because they are driving to conditions rather than to a target.