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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    I wonder if it was 1. or 2. that happened on the Rimutakas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    I wonder if it was 1. or 2. that happened on the Rimutakas?
    If it's an accident you're talking about it would have to be 1. (or 2. without the required visibility etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    That is the only option. "Conditions" are critical. If a driver cannot keep their conveyance within the white lines at whatever speed, then they are out of control. "Slow down Marquez"!


    Sorry but the plod need to concentrate on the speeders, not dangerous people like red light runners or people who can't indicate, hog lanes, don't stop at a "STOP" sign, etc, etc...
    Donuts don't pay for themselves you know.
    And speeding revenue, like other ticket fees, doesn't pay for enforcement either. I've been paying for my own donuts for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    And speeding revenue, like other ticket fees, doesn't pay for enforcement either. I've been paying for my own donuts for years.
    The revenue from speeding tickets etc doesn't directly go towards enforcement but it does go into the Gubbermints Consolidated Fund.

    All Gubbermint expenditure comes from that account so police pay, cars, radios etc get funded from it.

    So, given you're a Gubbermint employee, can you honestly say with a hand on your stomach, that your donuts are not funded from this Consolidated Fund...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    So, given you're a Gubbermint employee, can you honestly say with a hand on your stomach, that your donuts are not funded from this Consolidated Fund...
    Well not all of them, I bought him some one time

    Mint, their approach seems to be working unless we can kill 52 + people in the next week or so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Well not all of them, I bought him some one time

    Mint, their approach seems to be working unless we can kill 52 + people in the next week or so
    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...ll-in-decades/


    Lol, good one.

    Only time will tell if it's successful. It's great the way the article listed the number of steps to take to ensure a safer journey. The NZ Herald article was a bit longer and listed safer drivers, safer roads and signage, safer vehicles and better medical care etc as helping to reduce the death toll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Well not all of them, I bought him some one time

    Mint, their approach seems to be working unless we can kill 52 + people in the next week or so
    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...ll-in-decades/
    We were on track for the lowest road toll ever WITHOUT this draconian move. Or did we kill 58 people last december?
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    Son of a bish! Found out today I got the first speeding ticket of my life back on the 25th of November up in Auckland. 62km/h in a 50km/h coming off the motorway. Damn those fast rental cars and camera vans XD Nah I'm actually a bit gutted. Usually pretty good with the slowing down just before the sign (Woodend cop trains you well) but shit happens eh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Well not all of them, I bought him some one time

    Mint, their approach seems to be working unless we can kill 52 + people in the next week or so



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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Actually there are a lot of reasons for a valid defence, swerving/moving to avoid debri,livestock, feral hitchhikers, a shadow that looked like any of those etc...
    The main reason we get is that the road was clear. That doesn't make it okay. The ones you've mentioned are very rare.

    Don't forget, we stand and watch those corners that get cut when we run operations. We make sure we have a clear view of the corner. If there is debris or livestock, we'd see it too.

    The excuses we hear virtually always are purely self justification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    The revenue from speeding tickets etc doesn't directly go towards enforcement but it does go into the Gubbermints Consolidated Fund.

    All Gubbermint expenditure comes from that account so police pay, cars, radios etc get funded from it.

    So, given you're a Gubbermint employee, can you honestly say with a hand on your stomach, that your donuts are not funded from this Consolidated Fund...
    Certainly there is a link.

    Now go and tell the doctors and nurses at your local GPs that they are revenue collectors. They get gubbermint funding for delivering health care services. They take extra from you, so you are paying directly to them, and also indirectly via your taxes.

    You'll find a link to anyone who receives gubbermint funding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Certainly there is a link.

    Now go and tell the doctors and nurses at your local GPs that they are revenue collectors. They get gubbermint funding for delivering health care services. They take extra from you, so you are paying directly to them, and also indirectly via your taxes.

    You'll find a link to anyone who receives gubbermint funding.
    I'm glad we agree on the link.

    However, the New Zealand health services primary duty is to provide health care, not gather revenue. Maybe they should be actively out there gathering revenue though given they face a shortfall of $230 million currently, and are worried they won't be able to provide adequate coverage for next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Certainly there is a link.

    Now go and tell the doctors and nurses at your local GPs that they are revenue collectors. They get gubbermint funding for delivering health care services. They take extra from you, so you are paying directly to them, and also indirectly via your taxes.

    You'll find a link to anyone who receives gubbermint funding.
    i think the problem with the funding, is the perception that you exist only to enforce government policy,
    rather than, y'know,
    actually benefit the community in any way whatsoe'er...

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    Was cruising behind a cop on the motorway here in Tauranga at 110km/h yesterday. Zero tolerance unless you're a cop and you're late for lunch I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    Was cruising behind a cop on the motorway here in Tauranga at 110km/h yesterday. Zero tolerance unless you're a cop and you're late for lunch I guess.
    that would be for the hot doughnut shop, they taste better hot
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    The main reason we get is that the road was clear. That doesn't make it okay. The ones you've mentioned are very rare.

    Don't forget, we stand and watch those corners that get cut when we run operations. We make sure we have a clear view of the corner. If there is debris or livestock, we'd see it too.

    The excuses we hear virtually always are purely self justification.
    Let's get one thing clear. What you're talking about is cutting a corner without adequate visibility.

    Given that there is adequate visbility and a clear road what's the difference between simply spending a short time across the center line and overtaking another vehicle in the same place under the same conditions?
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