Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[swbarnett]

Certainly there is a link.

Now go and tell the doctors and nurses at your local GPs that they are revenue collectors. They get gubbermint funding for delivering health care services. They take extra from you, so you are paying directly to them, and also indirectly via your taxes.

You'll find a link to anyone who receives gubbermint funding.

The trouble with that argument is that the public health sector doesn't extort money from us under false pretenses.

[Tazz]

The trouble with that argument is that the public health sector doesn't extort money from us under false pretenses.

I'm not so sure about that

[swbarnett]

I was recently reading a report which found (not surprisingly) black cars are involved in 47% of crashes.

This statistic is useless if not accompanied by the proportion of black cars in the vehicle fleet.

[rastuscat]

Let's get one thing clear. What you're talking about is cutting a corner without adequate visibility.

Given that there is adequate visbility and a clear road what's the difference between simply spending a short time across the center line and overtaking another vehicle in the same place under the same conditions?

Thing is, driving is habitual. If we let people cut the open corners enough times, what they learn subconsciously is that it's okay to cut corners. Until one day they make a human error, and cut a corner when it's not a good idea.

Anyone who stays on the correct side of the road is at less risk of a head on than someone who strays from habit.

Please don't think that everyone who uses the roads make well evaluated, well informed decisions every time they do something.

[Ocean1]

Thing is, driving is habitual.

Aye. People habitually take the path of least danger. They do, have a wee google.

And they continue to transgress over the white line rather than navigate that green slime under the bank, there no matter what the local "reality" is.

Have the local defenders of real estate discovered what level of corporate safety we're happy to call a target yet?

[swbarnett]

Thing is, driving is habitual. If we let people cut the open corners enough times, what they learn subconsciously is that it's okay to cut corners. Until one day they make a human error, and cut a corner when it's not a good idea.

I see what you're saying. However, if you see someone cutting a corner correctly (in a safety sense) this is no indicator as to whether or not they are lilkely to fall in to this subconscious trap.

Does this mean we should never drive at 100kph because this will mean we're subconsciously conditioned to do so when it's not a good idea?

Anyone who stays on the correct side of the road is at less risk of a head on than someone who strays from habit.

And if they stay at home they're at less risk of an accident full stop. This is a case of a perfectly safe maneauvre being used as evidence of a bad driver jsut because it's seen as unnecessary. Riding a motorcycle is unnecessary also.

Please don't think that everyone who uses the roads make well evaluated, well informed decisions every time they do something.

I don't. That's why I'm still alive.

[Zedder]

This statistic is useless if not accompanied by the proportion of black cars in the vehicle fleet.

Settle, it was the conclusion of a report and should have been taken in context.

[bluninja]

Thing is, driving is habitual.

I went round the corner to the shops. Was going to walk as it's not far but suddenly found myself in the car. I guess driving for me is habitual

[scumdog]

Was cruising behind a cop on the motorway here in Tauranga at 110km/h yesterday. Zero tolerance unless you're a cop and you're late for lunch I guess.

You got a calibrated speedo too????

[KIPS powervalve]

Despite all the grumbling on here, I was on the motorway in the old cage and there were cops everywhere. Just the presence seemed to be having an effect. Doesn't stop idiots being idiots, cutting others off, not using indicators, talking on mobile while in charge of a 10 tonner with a laden trailer, etc.

[Akzle]

fuck, i got so high yesterday that driving at the speed limit was actually scary...

[rastuscat]

Just viewed the new tv ad promoting the message to slow down.

It's being released 5 Jan.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Oddly, it's along the lines of what I've been banging on about for the last few years.

Thought provoking. Akzle, you'll need to stay off the dak a few days or the point will fade into your haze.

[Akzle]

i think the solution is clear. If you want to slow people down on the roads, get them really, really stoned....

[kiwi cowboy]

Um........did we ever say that the policy doesnt apply to nice people?

It's been fairly well publicised. Nil ambush there.

I was sticking out like a beacon, likely to be why I got so few speeds. Like, one. By deduction I got somone who wasn't paying attention.

So if it makes you feel better., think of thr ticket as one for someone not paying attention.

So what your really saying is,
The guy got a ticket for not paying enough attention to his speedo but was watching the road and traffic around him staying with the flow but leaving a 3 second gap and just happened to sneak up from the 103 kms every one else was traveling at to 105 briefly?.

[rastuscat]

So what your really saying is,
The guy got a ticket for not paying enough attention to his speedo but was watching the road and traffic around him staying with the flow but leaving a 3 second gap and just happened to sneak up from the 103 kms every one else was traveling at to 105 briefly?.

Wow, everyone's an expert on what actually happened. Even when they weren't there. Still, this is KB.

What actually happened was the Police reduced the tolerance to 4 km/h for all of December and January. They then spent a gazillion dollars advertising the fact in the media, TV, papers, magazines, Facebook, Twitter, pretty much anywhere they could.

Then someone got caught in excess of the tolerance.

Is it really a surprise it happened?

For the record, when we do speed checks we find that most folk are actually travelling between 90 and 95, not the 103 you quote. Anyone doing over the well publicized tolerance is actually doing about 10 above what most others are.

Still, never let the facts stand in the way of a good post.