Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[Stylo]

Have these figures been thrown into the equation ?

Here's the speed limits on the open road as at 10/13 for other countrys , km/h

Australia 110 ( Northern territory just raised to 130 )

Austria 160

Bulgaria 140

China 120

Denmark 130

France 130

Germany Unlimited

Iceland 90

India 120

Italy 150

Japan 100

Netherlands 130

NEW ZEALAND 100

Poland 140

Russia 110

South Africa 120

Sweden 120

UK 112

USA 129 ( Texas 137 )

Not wading into this one too much further and I have my opinions too, just thought I'd throw some numbers on the board.

If they have been already , my apologies

[swbarnett]

Have these figures been thrown into the equation ?

Here's the speed limits on the open road

One thing that needs to be made clear is that the speed limit for rural roads and motorways are often not the same. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you're talking about motorways, not rural roads as we would call them here.

I say this because I know from personal experience that the speed limits in switzerland were (when I was there in the late '90s) very different (80kph for rural roads and 120kph for motorways).

[Dave-]

Have these figures been thrown into the equation ?

Here's the speed limits on the open road as at 10/13 for other countrys , km/h



Not wading into this one too much further and I have my opinions too, just thought I'd throw some numbers on the board.

If they have been already , my apologies

Keep in mind the quality and style of roads in many of those countries are far superior to our botched up volcanic chip shit.

[Berries]

Heard the bang of a crash this morning when I got to work, looked out the window to see a builders van that had clearly failed to give way at a give way sign and get twatted by a car going about its normal business. No idea how fast the car was going, and clearly if it had been going much slower the crash could have been avoided, but the fact is the van driver caused it. We can all drive around at 30km/h below the posted speed limit 'just in case' but then that margin of safety will soon be used up by the fuckwits who fail to give way or, in the case of the advert that was on again as I type, think they have enough time to get across.

Funny thing is I went through the same intersection ten minutes earlier than the car. While I like to think of myself as a defensive rider and generally expect people to pull out on me so am ready to try and avoid them, in the pissing rain this morning I probably wouldn't have been able to.

Not sure if there is a moral there, I only went that way as I thought I had been pinged on the motorway.

[Katman]

We can all drive around at 30km/h below the posted speed limit 'just in case' but then that margin of safety will soon be used up by the fuckwits who fail to give way or, in the case of the advert that was on again as I type, think they have enough time to get across.

What gets me is the number of clowns who fail to recognise that a vehicle stopped at an intersection should still be seen as a hazard - regardless of who has right of way.

[SPman]

make that

Australia 110 ( Northern territory lowered to 130 )

[Stylo]

One thing that needs to be made clear is that the speed limit for rural roads and motorways are often not the same. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you're talking about motorways, not rural roads as we would call them here.

I say this because I know from personal experience that the speed limits in switzerland were (when I was there in the late '90s) very different (80kph for rural roads and 120kph for motorways).

Semantics

Switzerland has a population of close to 8m people and 41, 000 km2 in area

New Zealand has around 4m people ( half of Switzerland ) and 271,000 km2 in area = 6.5 times the area of Switzerland.

I'm not surprised they have a tighter control regarding speed limits on that basis.

[scumdog]

What a pity the add being discussed did not reflect that eh Scumdog.
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Once again that was only a part of it- look at the discussion on the other aspects on the add that relate to unsafe driving - it provoked quite a bit of thought imho.

[scumdog]

Aren't you the one to stop us when we don't focus on the freaking 4kph thing and go to 5kph over (or more)?

ONLY if you insist...are you insisting?

[scumdog]

Have these figures been thrown into the equation ?

Here's the speed limits on the open road as at 10/13 for other countrys , km/h

Australia 110 ( Northern territory just raised to 130 )

Austria 160

Bulgaria 140

China 120

Denmark 130

France 130

Germany Unlimited

Iceland 90

India 120

Italy 150

Japan 100

Netherlands 130

NEW ZEALAND 100

Poland 140

Russia 110

South Africa 120

Sweden 120

UK 112

USA 129 ( Texas 137 )

Not wading into this one too much further and I have my opinions too, just thought I'd throw some numbers on the board.

If they have been already , my apologies

How about the deaths per capita and deaths per 100,000km figure too - just to keep a balance?

[Gremlin]

Too many of you seem to focus waaay too much on the freakin' 4kph thing.

I'm focussed on it because it impacts my licence and insurance. I'm focussed on it because there are vans tucked into the roadside in between and under trees, in passing lanes. I'm focussed on it because cops patrol passing lanes and highways. I observed both during my Christmas travels.

I'm focussed on it, because it's a risk to me. Wish it wasn't, but I don't have much choice.

[scumdog]

I'm focussed on it because it impacts my licence and insurance. I'm focussed on it because there are vans tucked into the roadside in between and under trees, in passing lanes. I'm focussed on it because cops patrol passing lanes and highways. I observed both during my Christmas travels.

I'm focussed on it, because it's a risk to me. Wish it wasn't, but I don't have much choice.

And if the tolerance was 10kph (or even 20kph) you would still be focussed on it - everybody likes to push the boundaries...

[Scuba_Steve]

And if the tolerance was 10kph (or even 20kph) you would still be focussed on it - everybody likes to push the boundaries...

most people here aren't focused on the tolerance per say they're focused on the scam; the lower tolerance is just waking more NZers upto the scam, tho a 4km tolerance & the way it's inforced does increase danger on the roads quite significantly.

[oneofsix]

And if the tolerance was 10kph (or even 20kph) you would still be focussed on it - everybody likes to push the boundaries...

ya might be right. The important thing is not to focus too hard on just one aspect of driving but on the holistic package like dick wads that are too distracted to stop at stop signs, or indicate or plan don't give a fuck about other road users.

[Gremlin]

And if the tolerance was 10kph (or even 20kph) you would still be focussed on it - everybody likes to push the boundaries...

Not quite as much, as over the years I've developed a sweet spot and habit for doing +10 indicated. Now strictly, yes, I'm speeding, but taking speedo error into account I'm somewhere inside the +10. CB900, I'm at +0 at 110kph, the BMW around +5-7, depending on tyre choice, how worn they are etc. A 5 increment has no notch on the speedo so trying to do 100 real. Creep is a big problem, very easy to go higher with little effort as the speed isn't "normal".

Ute... get to 100 real, tap cruise, no problem. Also has a speed warning which I can set (and I do).

Perhaps cops won't be draconian, but the cameras will be, and I have no way of knowing about the cars do I?