Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[Ocean1]

And if the tolerance was 10kph (or even 20kph) you would still be focussed on it - everybody likes to push the boundaries...

Yep. Right up to the speed they'd be driving / riding if there wasn't any limit.

85% of which is where that limit is supposed to be set. And we're a fucking sight slower than that now, ain't we? So why the surprise that everyone's pushing the limits?

Set the limits to somewhere reasonable and nobody would give a flying fuck what the tolerance is.

[swbarnett]

Semantics

Switzerland has a population of close to 8m people and 41, 000 km2 in area

New Zealand has around 4m people ( half of Switzerland ) and 271,000 km2 in area = 6.5 times the area of Switzerland.

I'm not surprised they have a tighter control regarding speed limits on that basis.

My point was that it is not clear what type of road the speed limits you quoted pertain to. I'm pretty certain that not all rural roads in Germany are unlimited.

Also, having lived in Switzerland I can say that, although the average population density is much higher, the rural roads feel about the same as here. It's just that the distance between villages (they're generally too small to be called towns) is shorter.

[awa355]

So, has anyone actually know or heard of someone getting a ticket for doing 5kph over the limit?

[bluninja]

So, has anyone actually know or heard of someone getting a ticket for doing 5kph over the limit?

I got one 4/12 for 5 kph over the limit from a camera van.

[rastuscat]

So, has anyone actually know or heard of someone getting a ticket for doing 5kph over the limit?

Lots have. I've written some of them. Mostly good humoured banter, when it's realized that the evil nasty fine is $30.

[RDJ]

So, has anyone actually know or heard of someone getting a ticket for doing 5kph over the limit?

Yes. It happens.

[Murray]

So, has anyone actually know or heard of someone getting a ticket for doing 5kph over the limit?

OK so he wasnt doing "5km" over the limit but hey he was still over the limit

A TOWNSVILLE man has copped a $146 fine for driving 1km/h over the speed limit.

Jake Cassidy, 21, was pulled over on December 23 and accused of clocking 61km/h in a 60km/h zone.

Mr Cassidy was driving a company car on a delivery and is not convinced he was 1km/h over.

The police officer did not use a speed gun to catch Mr Cassidy but measured the speed by driving behind him.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1226792203056

[grubbytech]

Well over here on the dark side the government has just announced that a section of the M1 (The North/South motorway here in England) is about to have the speed limit reduced to 60MPH. Allegedly this is to aid traffic congestion & reduce pollution.
I'm willing to bet that there'll be even more cameras put into this section of the motorway just to ensure that we all obey the law, not to make money you understand!

[Dave-]

So, has anyone actually know or heard of someone getting a ticket for doing 5kph over the limit?

Yup, chick I use to know got pinged a few years ago....long before the 'tolerance' thing.

[SPman]

OK so he wasnt doing "5km" over the lim...............
.........The police officer did not use a speed gun to catch Mr Cassidy but measured the speed by driving behind him.

The fine was dropped after the brouhaha and the officer was "spoken to"......

[rastuscat]

Well over here on the dark side the government has just announced that a section of the M1 (The North/South motorway here in England) is about to have the speed limit reduced to 60MPH. Allegedly this is to aid traffic congestion & reduce pollution.
I'm willing to bet that there'll be even more cameras put into this section of the motorway just to ensure that we all obey the law, not to make money you understand!

No speed no fine.

I've been trying to find a simple way to express this, as it's KB after all.

[oneofsix]

No speed no fine.

I've been trying to find a simple way to express this, as it's KB after all.

"No speed" = stationary (any got a pad and pencil?).

"No Fine"; rastuscat are you sherking your responsibilities again? Stopping on the motorway is illegal.




it is KB after all

[Mo NZ]

Stationary vehicle = pion

[bluninja]

Well over here on the dark side the government has just announced that a section of the M1 (The North/South motorway here in England) is about to have the speed limit reduced to 60MPH. Allegedly this is to aid traffic congestion & reduce pollution.
I'm willing to bet that there'll be even more cameras put into this section of the motorway just to ensure that we all obey the law, not to make money you understand!

At 60 mph you need less distance between the vehicles so you actually have more vehicles travelling in the same section of road...errr... that would make it more congested over the whole section of motorway. Though I guess the 70 mph down to 0 queue for a few minutes and then start increasing speed again makes it feel more congested at the point you stop. Still not a problem for bikes, they'll still be lane splitting at 80 and away from the gantry speed cams.

[swbarnett]

No speed no fine.

I've been trying to find a simple way to express this, as it's KB after all.

We are not slaves. Just because some prat in power decides it's a good idea doesn't mean it is. It's high time TPTB (police included) got it through their thick skulls that the ONLY way you will ever get complete compliance is when EVERY individual understands the reason behind the law and agrees with it.

It is the responsibility of Government to ensure that the laws are understood by the populace. And that those laws are in line with the stated reason for the law. When basic logic puts the lie to the stated reason, that law does not have a mandate to exist. In which case we, the populace, have a moral obligation to ignore said law when it is logical to do so within the reasoning behind that law.

Laws are for the obediance of fools and the guidence of the wise.