Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[MVnut]

What if there is nobody who may represent you or your views participates in the elections?

It's simple, vote for the lesser evil or stop complaining

[Jay GTI]

Or start your own political party. Then discover, despite your best intentions, strongest moral judgement and efforts to do the right thing, the whole system is so rigged to allow the corrupt to continue to pull the fast ones they always have, even if you got elected, you have no power anyway.

[Ocean1]

Or start your own political party. Then discover, despite your best intentions, strongest moral judgement and efforts to do the right thing, the whole system is so rigged to allow the corrupt to continue to pull the fast ones they always have, even if you got elected, you have no power anyway.

Or, just possibly discover that what the great unwashed want isn't actually achievable without consequences they simply wouldn't accept.

Now that'd be a real bummer...

[Akzle]

with so many who feel its wrong... Yet the system persists.
Theres a collective sickness of mind.
Yall need to UNGRIP

[rastuscat]

so, according to you, i dont have the right to make decisions for myself?

Of course you do.

You can choose to vote for anyone standing for election. Or you can choose to not vote.

You chose not to vote. Tell me whose decision that was, if not yours.

[pritch]

Its the real world, not some imaginary utopia where everyone gets their own way all the time.

He wasn't entirely wrong you know. Many people obey the laws they agree with, and ignore the ones they disagree with.
Just as Police enforce the laws they agree with, and ignore the ones they don't. Unless told otherwise... In the real world I mean.

We appear to have had some fairly third rate people heading up the Police in recent years, pardon me if I chose to ignore their more ridiculous utterances.

Also the NZTA staff apparently sit an intelligence test before they are hired, they fail the test, they get the job.

[caspernz]

He wasn't entirely wrong you know. Many people obey the laws they agree with, and ignore the ones they disagree with.
Just as Police enforce the laws they agree with, and ignore the ones they don't. Unless told otherwise... In the real world I mean.

We appear to have had some fairly third rate people heading up the Police in recent years, pardon me if I chose to ignore their more rediculous utterances.

Also the NZTA staff apparently sit an intelligence test before they are hired, they fail the test, they get the job.

Forgive me while I chuckle in agreement...

Over the years I've found leadership positions are often occupied by yes men/women, or on the "not what you know, but who you know" principle.

[Ocean1]

Many people obey the laws they agree with, and ignore the ones they disagree with.

What kind of idiot behaves otherwise?

Individuals make mistakes, but nowhere near the historically cataclysmic fuckups committees make on their behalf.

[Akzle]

You chose not to vote. Tell me whose decision that was, if not yours.

right. So i chose not to choose someone to make decisions for me... But you enforce their decisions against me?

[Dave-]

right. So i chose not to choose someone to make decisions for me... But you enforce their decisions against me?

So what you're proposing is that anyone who didn't vote should be granted impunity from any laws they don't agree with?

[Akzle]

So what you're proposing is that anyone who didn't vote should be granted impunity from any laws they don't agree with?

no, see, 'no man is above the law'
these are the laws of physics, gravity, logic, etc.
What youre speaking to is legislation. Theyre no more than mans rules to rule other men.

[R650R]

It certainly can't be worse than the despotic regime held by mother Clark.

Truly the dark days in our history as a country.

Well we didn't have no 4km/h tolerance back then, she did think it was ok after all to crack along at 175km/h to get to the rugby on time. If we'd let Clarkistan run its course we could have had autobahns by now...
Sure Team America would have come and saved us once she started offering free train rides to a better place.

About voting, how about this Rastus. How effective would your enforcement/safety tools be if you only got to ticket/arrest/impound bad drivers, speeders, drunks etc once every three years and the rest of the time had to sit back and watch the train wreck unfold, cause that's how democracy 'works'.

[Akzle]

and yes. One has a moral obligation to disobey unjust rule

[awayatc]

and yes. One has a moral obligation to disobey unjust rule

The best post by far..

The only thing being said in this everlasting ridiculous saga that makes any sense.

Great.

[scumdog]

no, see, 'no man is above the law'
these are the laws of physics, gravity, logic, etc.
What youre speaking to is legislation. Theyre no more than mans rules to rule other men.

So? And the problem is.....?