Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[willytheekid]

Smiled when I read that story.

I dont think any of road going public did!...or his family!

As for following "proceedure"...I should think you know the process Ras, my mother inlaw works in mental health, and even she was horrified about that story, and stated the ACTUAL "proceedure" regarding this one.(She's only got 30+yrs experiance in mental health...should I ignore her decades of experiance and opinion as well?)

...as the police have the legal right to asses an individual's mental well being & mental state (especially when alerted to the situation by family), and then if they deem the individual is mentaly unfit or at risk to themselves or other members of the public, they have the right to detain and refer them to the mental health services for an assesment. (legitimate enough?)

"I'm not happy with that, I feel the least they could have done was knocked on the door and assessed him and been proactive in this situation".

Its exactly what the father was asking!.(Maybe he did know the process...hence his...frustration)

...but nah!!, lets just get defensive and ignore commonsence at the expense of the public's safety and the young individual in question.

28yrs service mate...he has the right to his opinion, and quiet frankly, an opinion from a long serving popo should be carefully listened to...not instantly dismissed (some of us respect the opinion's from the older popos...like yours!)

But yes...going to the media was not the best move IMHO....I guess frustration and the fact it was his kid in trouble made him go for the "noisey" option.

...tis a worry tho, kids messed up that badly and in control of a motor vehicle..recipe for disaster there.

Meh!...stay safe Ras and keep up the great work (And sharing your opinions etc on here...its the best reading I get most days lol)

ps...hope you had a great Xmas NYrs Ras...when ya heading off to Vegas? (Pleeeeese take lots of "touristie" picys to share)

[willytheekid]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9606...aken-into-care

Update

...good to see the kid got some help

[Tazz]

One of the staff just went through the process of trying to get her mothers license removed (she got lost going to the dairy for a pack of smokes and ended up in Nelson with no idea how/why and no idea how to get home, and other such things also involving picking up hitch hikers too) and it was not a straight forward process at all. Your inlaw might be an efficient health care professional, but the 5 come across in the case mentioned were tits on a bull. I believe she still has it now but is minus a vehicle due to family action (which has caused its own problems)

To many rules, not enough rules, idiots lucky enough to be left alone, small slip up book thrown at you by wanker cops incidents...we just can't win

I dont think any of road going public did!...or his family!

As for following "proceedure"...I should think you know the process Ras, my mother inlaw works in mental health, and even she was horrified about that story, and stated the ACTUAL "proceedure" regarding this one.(She's only got 30+yrs experiance in mental health...should I ignore her decades of experiance and opinion as well?)

...as the police have the legal right to asses an individual's mental well being & mental state (especially when alerted to the situation by family), and then if they deem the individual is mentaly unfit or at risk to themselves or other members of the public, they have the right to detain and refer them to the mental health services for an assesment. (legitimate enough?)

"I'm not happy with that, I feel the least they could have done was knocked on the door and assessed him and been proactive in this situation".

Its exactly what the father was asking!.(Maybe he did know the process...hence his...frustration)

...but nah!!, lets just get defensive and ignore commonsence at the expense of the public's safety and the young individual in question.

28yrs service mate...he has the right to his opinion, and quiet frankly, an opinion from a long serving popo should be carefully listened to...not instantly dismissed (some of us respect the opinion's from the older popos...like yours!)

But yes...going to the media was not the best move IMHO....I guess frustration and the fact it was his kid in trouble made him go for the "noisey" option.

...tis a worry tho, kids messed up that badly and in control of a motor vehicle..recipe for disaster there.

Meh!...stay safe Ras and keep up the great work (And sharing your opinions etc on here...its the best reading I get most days lol)

ps...hope you had a great Xmas NYrs Ras...when ya heading off to Vegas? (Pleeeeese take lots of "touristie" picys to share)

[Ocean1]

One of the staff just went through the process of trying to get her mothers license removed <> and it was not a straight forward process at all.

We were lucky enough to encounter a similar situation just when the old dear was due en eye test to retain her licence.

We stole her glasses.

And the new pair.

[willytheekid]

One of the staff just went through the process of trying to get her mothers license removed (she got lost going to the dairy for a pack of smokes and ended up in Nelson with no idea how/why and no idea how to get home, and other such things also involving picking up hitch hikers too) and it was not a straight forward process at all. Your inlaw might be an efficient health care professional, but the 5 come across in the case mentioned were tits on a bull. I believe she still has it now but is minus a vehicle due to family action (which has caused its own problems)

To many rules, not enough rules, idiots lucky enough to be left alone, small slip up book thrown at you by wanker cops incidents...we just can't win

Yup!...its sad state of affares when Bullshit over rides commonsence!

But without these crazy rules, as Rastus has said, we risk falling into a "police state" type of system
...but once again the popo are left to clean up the mess, and risk breaking some of these crazy rules in the process(And get grilled by the media & public either way)...kinda damned if they do, and damned if they don't kind of situation ...tis a fine line...would hate there job.

...all the way to Nelson!...DAAAAAMN!!!! (And I thought I drift off occasionally)
thats gotta be scary!

ps...and from what Ive seen of the mental health system...crazy just dosn't sum it up!

[pzkpfw]

16 or 17 days to run for the tolerance.
What are we averaging about one death a day on the roads !
If we continue at this rate we'll have have 350 for the year.
That's a 100 up on last year? Mmmmmmm.

Heh.

When I worked at the MRC (Motor Registration Centre) the LTSA (it was, then) staff magazine had a thing on the road toll.

In March you'd see "Road toll 20, target for year 180".

(They meant well, but it read very wrong.)

[scumdog]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9606...aken-into-care

Update

...good to see the kid got some help

Hmm, lets see....
"Police might have been able to prevent the events of Saturday night - when his son was arrested again - if they acted earlier, the father said.

"Had they done something on Saturday morning we may have stopped him either being assaulted or being involved in a fight and as I say, all they really needed to do was take his keys off him," he said.

But a police spokesman said "a number of proactive steps" were taken by staff after being contacted by the man's mother on Saturday morning.

"We did locate the vehicle at a nearby address, and staff spoke to the occupants of that address," the spokesman said.

The occupants told police they had no concerns for the man at that time, and that he was in the care of someone he knew, he said.

"So at that point we were reasonably happy that (a) he was in a better state of mind and (b) that he wouldn't be driving for the rest of that day," the spokesman said.

The man's parents received a call from a "really concerned" woman on Saturday night, saying their son was at her house, and behaving erratically.

SO, something WAS done - but not to Dads satisfaction.

And that "really concerned" woman? - if the son really was that bad why did she not call Police?

(BTW: rocking up to the front door, saying " 'Ell-ello-ello, you look a bit loopy my man and we're going to take your licence off you and throw you in the padded cell" certainly wouldn't go down well!

The procedures are a little more complex than that and can be bloody frustrating....and have any of you seen how quickly a person who is behaving in an unstable manner can suddenly appear 'normal' when they realise their freedom is in jeopardy? - 'cos I certainly have)

[Akzle]

Could be worse, could be like Queensland.

Apparently there is a law there that says you can't leave a car unlocked. On hot days people will leave the windows down a bit but there is a limit, if any window is more than 5cm(?) down you get an A$146 ticket for leaving the car unlocked. There was a photo of a female cop in a Supermarket car park checking the gaps with a ruler.

A motorcyclist took a foot off the peg to stretch his leg, he was stopped and issued a ticket for riding with his feet off the pegs.

The money just keeps rolling in.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/cold-shoc...r-car-illegal/

mmmhmmmmmmmm

[Tazz]

http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/cold-shoc...r-car-illegal/

mmmhmmmmmmmm

Might as well just be fined for owning things that people want to steal.

[Ocean1]

Might as well just be fined for owning things that people want to steal.

Aye.

"Even in Colorado, famous for its skiing, it’s illegal state wide to warm up your car while you’re not in it. Police in the state are actually cracking down on the practice to reduce the number of stolen vehicles. They are actively patrolling neighborhoods looking for homeowners trying to get to work in the morning without freezing."

All wrong innit? Where do we get all this blaming the stealee from?

If'n I wus sheriff there'd be a fleet of unattended cars with special self-locking doors that called 911 when closed.

[Akzle]

Might as well just be fined for owning things that people want to steal.

shhhhhh!

you'll give scumpuppy ideas.

[Akzle]

If'n I wus sheriff there'd be a fleet of unattended cars with special self-locking doors that called 911 when closed.

why not just roll up the windows and release cyanide, with an ejector seat.
like self-re-setting traps.

or a small bear.
doors lock, back seat folds down into boot *bam* grizzly up in yo shit nigga!

[scumdog]

why not just roll up the windows and release cyanide, with an ejector seat.
like self-re-setting traps.

or a small bear.
doors lock, back seat folds down into boot *bam* grizzly up in yo shit nigga!

Hey that makes sense...

[RDJ]

I'd like this fitted if I had a car - with a proximity/theft trigger

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bdf_1352583873

IMO, theft is stealing time not just goods. If you work a month of 40 hour weeks to buy a bike and someone steals it, he's stolen a month of your 40-hour weeks' efforts. The mentality of the police spokespeople who say "do not leave valuables visible as it attracts thieves" is difficult to grasp. It is the immoral equivalent (but not as bad as) saying "she was wearing a short skirt and (so) getting assaulted was her fault". Just because something is in view does not constitute a license, provocation or endorsement that it is available to be taken by force. A disarmed populace of course leads to exactly this, where only the Government and criminals have access to protective force. But, I repeat myself..

[scumdog]

s. The mentality of the police spokespeople who say "do not leave valuables visible as it attracts thieves" is difficult to grasp. .

Oh you can leave your i-Pad and any other valuables in plain sight in your unlocked car overnight.

Just don't act surprised when it goes awol.

and likewise when the insurance company refuse your claim - or at least drag it out painfully.

nek minnit you'll have us believe it's OK to leave a loaded gun lying around 'cos nobody else should mess with it so nobody will end up being shot...or sommat like that.