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    Auckland Transport's new ride safe video



    I was quite impressed...
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    Not bad, volume or revs of bike is a little weird, colours as well.

    I would also like to see a section on (for eg) a 3 lane road, 2 right lanes are stopped traffic and you're zipping down the left lane. At an intersection the cars leave a gap for a car to cross through... common incident.
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    I'll flag this thread to the AT person who sent it to me. They might be interested in the comments..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Not bad, volume or revs of bike is a little weird, colours as well.

    I would also like to see a section on (for eg) a 3 lane road, 2 right lanes are stopped traffic and you're zipping down the left lane. At an intersection the cars leave a gap for a car to cross through... common incident.
    I was thinking the same, but for bus lanes...

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    More waste of public money to justify someone's job/yearly budget and my apologies to person concerned if reading this but; this is so basic that if your not already thinking about stuff like this you shouldn't even be driving a car let alone a bike. I note the vid begins without him doing a pretrip check...
    My own defensive techniques go above this and include thinking about stuff like: If we do collide where do I want to be pointed towards/tumbling/sliding afterwards, ie is there a greater hazard like oncoming traffic, poles or steep dropoff etc...
    There's one of those drive social ltsa ads to that irks me, it shows a slow caravan holding up traffic that eventually pulls over. How ever the cars following are bunched up and not anticipating him pulling over and have no momentum built up to pass. Then it shows someone roaring past from the back of the que like if they are the bad driver. When really its the wonbles up the front squandering an overtaking opportunity that have created the hazard, yet the ad reinforces their behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    More waste of public money to justify someone's job/yearly budget and my apologies to person concerned if reading this but; this is so basic that if your not already thinking about stuff like this you shouldn't even be driving a car let alone a bike. I note the vid begins without him doing a pretrip check...
    My own defensive techniques go above this and include thinking about stuff like: If we do collide where do I want to be pointed towards/tumbling/sliding afterwards, ie is there a greater hazard like oncoming traffic, poles or steep dropoff etc...

    And yet, 90% of people who ride bikes are not as perfect as you.. so therefore this is needed.

    Its also handy for new riders to have a gander at before they pop out in the traffic.
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    The question is; if AT can produce this for all riders to access, what the jingos are MOTONZ doing....

    Full credit to AT even though there will be knockers

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    More waste of public money to justify someone's job/yearly budget and my apologies to person concerned if reading this but; this is so basic that if your not already thinking about stuff like this you shouldn't even be driving a car let alone a bike. I note the vid begins without him doing a pretrip check...
    I'm simplifying things (ironic) but psychologically speaking, if you try to teach ten things in a two minute vid, the person watching is gonna forget em all. There is worth in keeping things simple.

    As for the value of what is being said, the messages (roll off / cover brake / look for an escape) seem the same as what Code, Ienatsch, Hough, and others cover in their books...

    Consider also that if you pick any professional sportsperson then chances are you'll find they spend a majority of their day practicing the basics.

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    Quite impressed as well. These are the kind of things that go on in your head continuously and automatically once you've had a fair bit of experience but aren't obvious to beginners. Good stuff.

    I'd like to see more advanced and detailed ones e.g. freeze-framing or slowing down a situation with multiple hazards and highlighting the things an experienced rider would focus on, how they would prioritise them, what defensive actions they would take, etc.

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    Yeah I'm not perfect and not knocking for the sake of it, just I feel this stuff is covered in the basics and road rules when doing the licence test/training along with the minimum level of human common sense.
    Still think making all road users sit and watch an hour of Russian dashcam vids would be more effective than all these fancy sidshows, and the cost to joe public is zero.
    The real problem is that we are taught 'road rules' and foolishly believe for awhile that other road users remember and obey them...
    BTW in that first junction, are we to believe he pulled off a violent right-left-right flick across the white line on that damp looking junction without highsiding

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    I found this about as useful as the ridesafe signs which now litter our state highways

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    BTW in that first junction, are we to believe he pulled off a violent right-left-right flick across the white line on that damp looking junction without highsiding
    Yeah... I "practice" that all the time :P
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    I pulled a few good wheelies going up that hill on the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    And yet, 90% of people who ride bikes are not as perfect as you.. so therefore this is needed.

    Its also handy for new riders to have a gander at before they pop out in the traffic.
    Yep, it's about sending a message to a wide target audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustic101 View Post
    The question is; if AT can produce this for all riders to access, what the jingos are MOTONZ doing....

    Full credit to AT even though there will be knockers
    I agree.


    As far as MOTONZ goes, in the words of Paul Simon: There were incidents and accidents, there were hints and allegations...

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