Orange Street Triple R on Akaroa Highway? (2 January)

[ellipsis]

...oh yeah...the other 10% are either not fishing any more or drowned...

[James Deuce]

Dragged off by Stingray!

[dangerous]

This rider was supposed to be a cautious IAMS rider though a big difference or are they all as I suspected wannabe racers

shit I give up... tell me what this bloody IAMS shit is will ya???

The Institute of Advanced Motorists is not a training school, it is a registered charity, and it isn't a replacement for professional driving training.

ahhh ok... so why the hell is it refered to so much?

[Gremlin]

But does hazard awareness not decrease with faster speed as your vison must become more focussed directly in front rather that checking whats coming at you from side streets as an example.

Absolutely correct, it's the tunnel effect, where, with enough speed, your vision is simply the pin prick in front of you. However, through training, you learn to see more at any given speed (as one has said, his eyes were opened by the number of hazards that were being observed constantly). Most are surprised at the number of hazards they aren't seeing first time around when raised.

[Berries]

These speeds are set based on specially equipped vans using a variety of sensors to determine the correct speed,

I wish. I get to sucker the thrust gauge on the inside of whatever vehicle I can borrow if I need to do the curve speed. Half the time it falls off.

Someone else mentioned setting the speeds based on camber and geometry. Unless this is measured properly as it is on the state highways each year it would be a pain in the arse to do a proper survey. Although antiquated the ball bank gauge gives results pretty close to the calculated curve speed anyway.

[Gremlin]

Its too bad no other training school has been discussed as an alternative to IAMs although 1 poster did give the name of it. I am
guessing though the IAMS guys would still consider those who did other school courses less in ability than them.

The Institute of Advanced Motorists is not a training school, it is a registered charity, and it isn't a replacement for professional driving training.

Damn, I thought I'd succeeded in passing on at least that much...

[bogan]

I am not rubbishing training as such but another poster said it would give some a feeling of overconfidence hence the reason why they believed the Govt does not support IAMS being a part of getting a license. Those in support of IAMS on here certainly echo a overconfident attitude they way they consider all others of lesser ability than them. I have mentioned before the type of bike a person rides would also influence their level of confidence too. Its too bad no other training school has been discussed as an alternative to IAMs although 1 poster did give the name of it. I am
guessing though the IAMS guys would still consider those who did other school courses less in ability than them.

You seem to be confused, thinking they are better riders than others is not overconfidence, not if they can pass a test 90% of riders would fail.

Overconfidence is them thinking they are better than they are; not thinking they are better than you are. I'm not sure why you feel your 34years of experience should allow you to say what is safe and what isn't for others, when you won't even allow them to decide what is safe for themselves despite have gone through rigorous training.

[quickbuck]

But does hazard awareness not decrease with faster speed as your vison must become more focussed directly in front rather that checking whats coming at you from side streets as an example. If hazard awareness did not decrease with speed there woud be no need for speed limits would there.

It all depends on where your focus is.....
For example IF you were to do 100k through your 3 metre wide living room (assuming you took the walls off the front and back) then it would seem ridiculously fast. Yet you are well prepared to ride at 100k down a lane but 3m wide.....

Your brain can actually take in a lot of information at once.... It is a matter of training it to.



Sent from my laptop. quickbuck is out.....

[Ocean1]

Fuck this, time for reds.

Offs, we're out of lesbians?

[SMOKEU]

sports bike which in my opinion have a safety deficiantcy in themselves in that your periferel vision
is limited by the lower bars.

I haven't noticed that effect on my GSXR600, nor a CBR900RR that I rode.

Absolutely correct, it's the tunnel effect, where, with enough speed, your vision is simply the pin prick in front of you. However, through training, you learn to see more at any given speed (as one has said, his eyes were opened by the number of hazards that were being observed constantly). Most are surprised at the number of hazards they aren't seeing first time around when raised.

How fast do you have to go for this to occur? At 200kmh (actual GPS speed) on a "race track" I haven't noticed that "tunnel effect" that I've heard a lot about. Maybe I need to buy a 1000cc sports bike.

[Madness]

Damn, I thought I'd succeeded in passing on at least that much...

You were successful if you count 99% as a pass.

[blackdog]

I get it now.

The nurses must be allowing cassina to use the computer in the day room.

There is more retard in this thread than at a redneck family reunion.

[ellipsis]

you bloody old grumpy prick... bet your a ginger nut, go back to ya banjo playing hillbilly harley... and leave the wanabe rice rocket rider alone

.....k...........

[Madness]

Offs, we're out of lesbians?

No point. I figure if I post images of hot lesbians Cassina will see nothing but big yellow school buses being driven dangerously by unicorns.

[Gremlin]

How fast do you have to go for this to occur? At 200kmh (actual GPS speed) on a "race track" I haven't noticed that "tunnel effect" that I've heard a lot about. Maybe I need to buy a 1000cc sports bike.

Well, it depends what your "race track" is. A genuine race track has very little need for processing, you do it multiple times per hour etc. Also depends on the person, how much they are used to processing, how much they are used to the speed etc. I remember first sitting up when doing 200kph and thinking I was going off the back for sure. Over time, you become accustomed to it and things get easier.

I remember when coming close to stretching a 1L's legs that the pin prick vision really does exist, but then every little bump is sending you airborne, and the rev needle is dancing around the display. Best reason to think twice before trying, is that you're covering the majority of 100m every second...

edit: Before cassina thinks this is what I do, this was years ago. Since then I doubt I've exceeded 150kph in several years, including while passing vehicles.