Orange Street Triple R on Akaroa Highway? (2 January)

[nzspokes]

We should all be dead the way these IAMs guys think eh. Maybe thats why the Govt does not fund IAMs training as they know the guys
have an attitude they are better riders than everyone else because only 10% of riders pass their courses.

Wow, thats a big call. Can you tell me how many IAMs riders you have meet and spoken about IAMs with?

I have meet a few along with the head guy for NZ. I have seen no attitude about it, nothing. When I did my training with him there was no attitude. I am not an IAM member.

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...hey Muppet, are you sure it wasn't me out on the road testing my ongoing project...an orange AC 50 that I have put an A100 motor in...it has a bit of a 'left outside in Haast for a year or two patina...?...

[skippa1]

I am not saying I follow behind slow drivers but there are many opportunities where I am able to use drivers travelling about the same speed as a guide but I always keep a reasonable distance so that if they if they leave the road for any reason I dont follow. You have said you have the ability to calm pillions so they feel safer. The IAMs rider should have had the expertise
to find this out before the guy even got on the bike or I am sure once they had got going a gentle tap on the riders shoulder should have been enough to get him to stop/slowdown. Of course it is always possible the pillion while feeling scared to death did not want to let the rider to know this in case he was to feel he was a wimp. If this was the case I owe the rider an apology.

This troll is a camper van driver, you can tell. Stop feeding him, he may leave

[James Deuce]

I am not rubbishing training as such but another poster said it would give some a feeling of overconfidence hence the reason why they believed the Govt does not support IAMS being a part of getting a license. Those in support of IAMS on here certainly echo a overconfident attitude they way they consider all others of lesser ability than them. I have mentioned before the type of bike a person rides would also influence their level of confidence too. Its too bad no other training school has been discussed as an alternative to IAMs although 1 poster did give the name of it. I am
guessing though the IAMS guys would still consider those who did other school courses less in ability than them.

Now that's a misquote. What I should have said is that the Government and its fascist Gang have their heads shoved so far up its collective swastika wrapped arse that they are capable of saying any old stupid thing to justify their mind-numbingly moronic approach to long term improvements in road safety and fatality reduction.

From personal experience, getting close to your own in length, the more training I do, the less "confident" I am, the more considered my approach, and consequently and counter-intuitively the less time I spend travelling from point A to point B with far less anxiety and almost no bad moments.

[James Deuce]

Oh, and IAMS is CAT FOOD!! It's I. A. M. road craft we're talking about.

Cat Food.

Cat Foo

Cat F

Shit, bored again.

TLDR

[Ocean1]

No point.

So, entirely appropriate in a thread about how other people orta ride?

[dangerous]

...hey Muppet, are you sure it wasn't me out on the road testing my ongoing project...an orange AC 50 that I have put an A100 motor in...it has a bit of a 'left outside in Haast for a year or two patina...?...

or a orange XR12, and come on man try a H100 in a MB5

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or a orange XR12, and come on man try a H100 in a MB5

...I'm trying to develop an under the radar high speed but very economical sports tourer, just for the AK GP...the AC50 seems to fit in well on HW75...I know for sure Muppet didnt see me on my orange sporty out on 75, entering and exiting corners smoothly...Im still using the terrible lines I learned from Dangerous...

[george formby]

Absolutely correct, it's the tunnel effect, where, with enough speed, your vision is simply the pin prick in front of you. However, through training, you learn to see more at any given speed (as one has said, his eyes were opened by the number of hazards that were being observed constantly). Most are surprised at the number of hazards they aren't seeing first time around when raised.

Perhaps at very high speeds, had a sensation like that going at warp factor 9 on Y'erpean motorways me'self. But.

Back in the day when the Iron Lady ruled the roost in the UK a certain Eurocrat by the name of Herr Bangerman came within a cats whisker of imposing blanket horse power limits on motorcycles in the EU. Somebody else without a clue trying to save people from themselves. Any hoo.
Mrs Thatcher got peer reviewed scientific evidence which showed that riders traveling quickly (fast) had increased awareness of their surroundings, better reaction times & made better decisions. The effect was more pronounced in highly trained riders. How this was fathomed I dunno but it was enough for the least motorcycle minded Prime Minister you could imagine to veto the proposal & save the EU from a max HP limit of 75 or 100 horse powers.
I've been meaning to get to the bottom of this wee historical nugget for a long time.

[ckai]

Absolutely correct, it's the tunnel effect, where, with enough speed, your vision is simply the pin prick in front of you. However, through training, you learn to see more at any given speed (as one has said, his eyes were opened by the number of hazards that were being observed constantly). Most are surprised at the number of hazards they aren't seeing first time around when raised.

Prime example is fighter pilots. They're not born vision processing freaks. They're born vision gods, then through training they can process even more crazy amount of shit they can see. One drill that CSS does is exactly for this.

I am not rubbishing training as such but another poster said it would give some a feeling of overconfidence hence the reason why they believed the Govt does not support IAMS being a part of getting a license. Those in support of IAMS on here certainly echo a overconfident attitude they way they consider all others of lesser ability than them. I have mentioned before the type of bike a person rides would also influence their level of confidence too. Its too bad no other training school has been discussed as an alternative to IAMs although 1 poster did give the name of it. I am
guessing though the IAMS guys would still consider those who did other school courses less in ability than them.

I mentioned another. Hello, I'm a wanker and have done the California Superbike School. All you other mere mortals shall bow before my greatness. Now with a training course called I.A.M and one called California Superbike School which do you think would be more inclined to get the "overconfident attitude"? The answer is neither. Judging something based on a very small minority is delusional.

It may not be your stance to fully rubbish those that do advance training or travel faster than you do, but that's certainly how you come across. And being so narrow minded as to not consider alternatives is - to put it very bluntly sorry - fucken brain dead and arrogant.

For god's sake, someone in Christchurch that is not all piss and wind, offer this person a ride on the back so they know what it's like to lean around corners.

It's like arguing with my 3 year old.

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...well?...I do need to test the AC50/A100 two up sometime...I'm up for it...

[dangerous]

...well?...I do need to test the AC50/A100 two up sometime...I'm up for it...

you be on the bitch seat right? aslong as I can get round the 2nd righty we will be sweet mate

[george formby]

I am not rubbishing training as such but another poster said it would give some a feeling of overconfidence hence the reason why they believed the Govt does not support IAMS being a part of getting a license. Those in support of IAMS on here certainly echo a overconfident attitude they way they consider all others of lesser ability than them.

In countries were insurance is compulsory, the insurers give big discounts if you are an I.A.M's, or similar organization, member. They have a far bigger stake than Gummints. Their bottom line.

[SMOKEU]

Since then I doubt I've exceeded 150kph in several years, including while passing vehicles.

I don't know how you even last a single decent length ride without exceeding 150kmh, let alone several years! You must have the self restraint of a saint.

For god's sake, someone in Christchurch that is not all piss and wind, offer this person a ride on the back so they know what it's like to lean around corners.

Yes.

...well?...I do need to test the AC50/A100 two up sometime...I'm up for it...

Make it a Hayabusa, or ZX14. That would be a thrill.

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nt.







Make it a Hayabusa, or ZX14. That would be a thrill.

...i know the good lines, I'd smoke you , two up...even though I need to work on my right handers...