Orange Street Triple R on Akaroa Highway? (2 January)

[Madness]

I don't know if feeding her IAMS would make her any faster around the corner into the kitchen or not.

I wouldn't if I were you. I read in here earlier that feeding IAMS can lead to a superiority complex in the animal and over-confidence with corners.

We have a farm cat that came with the house. Horrible thing it is. It gets around half a small bag of Pams cat biscuits per week, costing me about $2.00. The fucking thing ate an enormous Huhu Bug the other night right in front of us, well worth the $2.00 for entertainment value alone.

[bogan]

One of these cats had IAMS for breakfast...

[buggerit]

You would think based on the responses from the IAMS guys on here they would be so good as to not need it anyway. I have gone without full cover myself due to the high cost of reg and if I was as crap rider as they think do you think I would risk going without full cover?

Once every 6 months to get a warrant is not riding, but at least youre out of the campervan I spose

[dangerous]

Our dog likes tux biscuits for breakfast, some other stuff I can't remember the name of for dinner.

I don't know if feeding her IAMS would make her any faster around the corner into the kitchen or not.

DOG... thats not a bloody dog, its a girls hand bag powder puff

..............

farking ellipsis'sssss, like a plague on this thread

its a training institution that's teaching cats and dogs to ride your own motorcycle

but... I already know how to ride my own motorcycle and I dont let the bloody cat of dog anywere near it

[blackdog]

...I also exceed the safe limit like you IAMs guys...

WTF?

Your parents aren't cousins are they?

[GTRMAN]

You comment is quite funny that speed limits have been set the way they are to protect mentally disabled drivers/riders and I have often heard it said that those that travel above the speed limit are lunatics with a death wish meaning they are mentally impaired as well. I also exceed the safe limit like you IAMs guys but the big difference is I am aware there is a safety trade off and for that reason I am far from excessive with the time I spend over it.

For the benefit of the rest of us, can you let us know where you got the idea that Roadcraft gives anyone a false sense of security or overestimation of their own skills, specifically I am looking for what comments come from the forum posters and which come from the voices in your head because you hae gotten the completely wrong idea about things.

[Headbanger]

This is why I generally just stick to porn.

Way more simple

and stickier.

[Madness]

How can I have someone assessed as having a mental disorder?

You need to lodge a formal application to have a person assessed to see whether they have a mental disorder. If you are over 18 years and you have seen the person in the last three days, you can make an application to have them assessed. The application must be made to the Director of Area Mental Health Services (DAMHS) and be in writing.

The application needs to include:
•your relationship with the person
•why you think they have a mental disorder
•a statement that you have seen that person in the last three days
•a statement from a doctor who has examined the person in the last three days (the statement from the doctor must back up your claim that the person may have a mental disorder)

For more help with an application you can contact your local Citizens Advice Bureau or your doctor.

I wonder if just providing a link to this thread would cut it?

[jasonu]

You comment is quite funny that speed limits have been set the way they are to protect mentally disabled drivers/riders and I have often heard it said that those that travel above the speed limit are lunatics with a death wish meaning they are mentally impaired as well. I also exceed the safe limit like you IAMs guys but the big difference is I am aware there is a safety trade off and for that reason I am far from excessive with the time I spend over it.

OfftopicOfftopic:
I thought we were talking about cat chow.

[Geeen]

I wonder if just providing a link to this thread would cut it?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Madness again.

[ckai]

For the benefit of the rest of us, can you let us know where you got the idea that Roadcraft gives anyone a false sense of security or overestimation of their own skills, specifically I am looking for what comments come from the forum posters and which come from the voices in your head because you hae gotten the completely wrong idea about things.

It was actually another poster that said that in relation to why the Govt would never endorse it. The question is perhaps is it the roadcraft training itself or the voices in the head of some on this website who have done it I wonder?

Sorry to be a broken record but it was asked for you to provide them. Dig it/them out and quote it/them here. You do seem to be continuously saying "It was actually another poster...", but what people are asking for is the actual quote.

Also basing your assessment on something being rubbish purely by the government not endorsing it is seriously, seriously flawed, especially when it comes to road safety. For one thing, we are very well known the world over for our lack of driver education and this is directly related to the actions of the government not specifying a structure educational system for road users. Testing does not count. That is not education.

On a more general note for your endorsement theory, the government refuses to fund several medications that have been proven extremely effective for some rather nasty shit purely based on cost and the small percentage of people that the nasty shit affects. Another example, the government decided to endorse rubbish tools used by diabetics purely on a cost basis.

You're going to have to use another argument instead of "government endorsement".

[neels]

So I am far from alone in my thinking there is no such thing as being fast and safe.

You seem fixated on 'fast'

Does it occur to you that your definition of fast might differ from my definition of fast which may differ from someone else's definition of fast? And that what speed you deem safe on your bike might be a considerable percentage below what is actually safe for a capable rider on a capable bike.

And for the record, relatively speaking I am fucking slow on the road.

[skippa1]

Originally Posted by James Deuce
Lol. The last thing any Government wants is a competent driver base. There is a firm belief in NZ that advanced training simply enables drivers and riders to travel at much greater speeds competently thereby making the accident bigger. IAM Roadcraft is based on UK Police roadcraft guidelines. It has substantial literature and practical guidelines thereby rendering it uninteresting to the LTNZ, particularly as its testing guidelines insist on independence from Government intervention thereby qualifying it as non-revenue raising advanced rider training.

Not sure if this is his personal belief but the fact he says its a firm belief in NZ just goes to prove that faster speeds despite having training do not improve safety
with the coment the accidents will be bigger. So I am far from alone in my thinking there is no such thing as being fast and safe. You guys need to look at vehicle crash test data to see how less safe a person is the faster the impact but if IAMS training brainwashes you to think otherwise think otherwise at your peril.

fuck off troll

[Geeen]

fuck off troll

Do you want some of this??

[GTRMAN]

Originally Posted by James Deuce
Lol. The last thing any Government wants is a competent driver base. There is a firm belief in NZ that advanced training simply enables drivers and riders to travel at much greater speeds competently thereby making the accident bigger. IAM Roadcraft is based on UK Police roadcraft guidelines. It has substantial literature and practical guidelines thereby rendering it uninteresting to the LTNZ, particularly as its testing guidelines insist on independence from Government intervention thereby qualifying it as non-revenue raising advanced rider training.

Not sure if this is his personal belief but the fact he says its a firm belief in NZ just goes to prove that faster speeds despite having training do not improve safety
with the coment the accidents will be bigger. So I am far from alone in my thinking there is no such thing as being fast and safe. You guys need to look at vehicle crash test data to see how less safe a person is the faster the impact but if IAMS training brainwashes you to think otherwise think otherwise at your peril.

Seriously? That is your motivation? How about this, get in touch with Duncan Steed, he is an IAM examiner in Christchurch, talk to him and get a clear idea of what Roadcraft is and what it is not.

Or you can just labour under the mistaken belief you have the faintest idea what you are talking about.

Put up or shut up.