Requirements when transporting more than 5 litres of fuel?

[bosslady]

Many thanks in advance for anyone who can help me here. It's my understanding after reading this link: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/fa...-domestic.html that if I am carrying more than 5 litres of "dangerous goods" or in my case, fuel, that there are special requirements that need to be met. Obviously I read the link, but still don't quite understand what those "special" or "extra" requirements are. I recently purchased myself a new rack for my bike that fits the Rotopax 6.6 litre fuel container and mount on it below:



Basically I want to try and not give someone an excuse to write me a ticket, if I can help it... Can anyone help here?

Also, I notice this fuel container is fitted with something called an "eco spout" in the US (which is where I got it) and ones sold outside of the US are fitted with one of those yellow flexi ones ( http://rotopax.com/1.75-Gallon/ ) is this an issue at all? I only ask as it doesn't make sense to have one spout for the US and a different one for everybody else.

Cheers!

[Madness]

Apologies in advance if my following post seems unhelpful.

Paint it rattle can black & don't stress so much. It's a petrol-approved container & you're what, 1.6l litres over the limit of some obscure rule? Maybe only put 5 litres of fuel in if you're still concerned?

[FJRider]

There are NO "special' requirements (any longer) for carrying over 5 liters of fuel. Otherwise my 10, 20, and 50 liters containers would be a pain in the ass for compliance ...

Don't worry and be happy ...

[Grizzo]

Put the gas down the neck hole and forget about it.... and dont forget to....chill Winston.

[roogazza]

+ 1 to Madness , bosslady. If you knew how much aircraft fuel we used to lug around you'd go dizzy.
Don't encourage them for gods sake,there are too many rules as it is.

[bosslady]

Apologies in advance if my following post seems unhelpful.

Paint it rattle an black & don't stress so much. It's a petrol-approved container & you're what, 1.6l litres over the limit of some obscure rule? Maybe only put 5 litres of fuel in if you're still concerned?

I'm not overly concerned but figured if there was something very simple I could do to ensure that I complied, then I should probably at least try. I did think I could put only 5 litres in it, so that I did comply, but then it seemed if I did that what a total waste of money, the rack, container and mount weren't cheap so I'd rather use it to its extent!

There are NO "special' requirements (any longer) for carrying over 5 liters of fuel. Otherwise my 10, 20, and 50 liters containers would be a pain in the ass for compliance ...

Don't worry and be happy ...

How do you know there are now no longer any special requirements? Can I find that anywhere?

[Madness]

+ 1 to Madness , bosslady. If you knew how much aircraft fuel we used to lug around you'd go dizzy.
Don't encourage them for gods sake,there are too many rules as it is.

I used to do the avgas run to Paraparaumu for boat racing. I'd often have 200 litres in the back of the stationwagon in plastic 20lt oil drums. I smoked like a chimney all the way back to The Hutt, just kept the drivers window down.

[Smifffy]

My interpretation:

From the link you posted, if you exceed the maximum quantity then you must ensure:

The packaging is appropriate
The labelling is correct, including UN number (UN1203)
The package is secured appropriately

From Table 2: Quantity limits (copy of schedule 1 from the Rule)

[Note: Petrol is classified as UN 1203, PETROL, Class 3, Packing Group II. ]

Class 3, Packing group II has a max quantity of 250L.

I think you can tote your little tank around without worrying about getting a ticket.

Use this info at your own risk. Doesn't constitute legal advice etc. And shit.

[bosslady]

My interpretation:

From the link you posted, if you exceed the maximum quantity then you must ensure:

The packaging is appropriate
The labelling is correct, including UN number (UN1203)
The package is secured appropriately

From Table 2: Quantity limits (copy of schedule 1 from the Rule)

[Note: Petrol is classified as UN 1203, PETROL, Class 3, Packing Group II. ]

Class 3, Packing group II has a max quantity of 250L.

I think you can tote your little tank around without worrying about getting a ticket.

Use this info at your own risk. Doesn't constitute legal advice etc. And shit.

Haha cheers Smifffy! I'll have to check out the markings on the container tomorrow in the light.

[FJRider]

I'm not overly concerned but figured if there was something very simple I could do to ensure that I complied, then I should probably at least try. I did think I could put only 5 litres in it, so that I did comply, but then it seemed if I did that what a total waste of money, the rack, container and mount weren't cheap so I'd rather use it to its extent!

How do you know there are now no longer any special requirements? Can I find that anywhere?

Your Main fuel tank alone holds MORE than 5 liters ...

Years ago there WAS a requirement for vehicles with large fuel capacity's to have restrictions placed on them ... 7 liters is not large.

YOU have nothing to fear.

[scumdog]

Basically I want to try and not give someone an excuse to write me a ticket, if I can help it... Can anyone help here?


Cheers!

Well first you would have to find a cop that knew about that sort of obscure shit before you could be worried about a ticket!!!

Chill, you'll be right!

[bosslady]

It should be interesting to see how much mileage I can get now. The 2-3 times I've run out of fuel I've been at about 90 - 95 miles, or 150kms thereabouts etc. just on main which is 8 litres. So you could say I get about 19kms to the litre which is pretty shite, but that's if you're commuting and giving it heaps of gas everywhere you go i.e. totallly unecessary shit. I've not yet seen how many k's I can get on main on the open road, that will be the test when I ride down to Taupo on Friday, am going to keep going without stopping for fuel and see how many k's I can get at motorway speeds etc. I reckon I should be able to get at least another 20 or so km's, surely? I figured though travelling open road (mostly) including the rotopax and my main and reserve tanks, I should get between 315k-350ish (??) k's before I need to stop for fuel? That's pretty decent I should think..

[bosslady]

Well first you would have to find a cop that knew about that sort of obscure shit before you could be worried about a ticket!!!

Chill, you'll be right!

Haha ok I will take your word for it. I just thought it sticks out like a sore thumb and I myself have never seen any other bikes carrying fuel in such a manner as I.

[Smifffy]

Haha ok I will take your word for it. I just thought it sticks out like a sore thumb and I myself have never seen any other bikes carrying fuel in such a manner as I.

Most of 'em just bungee on a couple of coke bottles

[Laava]

Just thought I would make the point that you should have this tank either dead full or dead empty. If it is half full it could slosh about at the wrong time and given it,s position, ie high and at the back, it could affect balance at really low speeds esp.
minor point tho.