How not to ride at the track - Hampton Rider Skills Day

[Brett]

^^^^THIS^^^^
It was a HAVE A GO DAY, not a "Turn up only if you are a riding god day" Ridicule actual riders at your peril keyboard racers.

Until the silly cunt takes me out. Sure, the point isn't to ridicule, but equally, don't want some bloke playing at Rossi taking me and my bike out do I?

[switchMode]

Ask ay first timer, stright after briefing, to repeat the overtaking rules. Most of the time they are so full of nerves and anticipation, there's a good chance half wouldn't be able to do it.

Was at last weekends one, the rules were pretty simple. Make sure you have at least 2m of space at all times and preferably not around corners. Simples.

[Drew]

Then perhaps rather than waving your big dicksaround, perhaps you could put yours and your mates experience to good use by offering some constructive ideas that have a go participants could take on board, in order to minimise events as shown on the two videos?

If you look through the comments, you'll notice I said nothing at all about the guy at Ruapuna and his riding.

Little bit *hard* not to when you're insinuating Drew and I have our cocks out at the same time mate...

Sooooo, I should put the wee fella away now?

Reread Drews response to my post. It was never an attack on people who have the experience to offer constructive criticism; rather a shot at those who dont.

There was no distinction that I could see, hence my response.

[Kendoll]

Be great if they are. May take some things on board. Only too happy if they are if they want to get hold of me. As stated...always only too happy to help out if I can.

Hahaha... "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Crasherfromwayback again."

[EJK]

Alright here's another one.



Quote from the video

Guy on a Mint condition Kawasaki ZX-7R highsided on the last session of the day in the fast group. We checked his tire presures after the bike was in and they were 42psi rear and 39psi front and sport tourers tires as well. Rider couldnt feel thumb and had a sore wrist,chest and shoulder and was taken away in a ambulance.

[Kendoll]

I'm not going to comment on this one in case I get told to stick things in my arse again...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Alright here's another one.

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Them thar be some mighty high tyre pressures!

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm not going to comment on this one in case I get told to stick things in my arse again...

Lol. Who's a naughty girl then!?

[sil3nt]

Crash is 1 minute in:

[actungbaby]

Them thar be some mighty high tyre pressures!

Good point but really track just piece of tarmac like the road to high side i imagine u have to puting on some serious hp

out of the corners. and if you like me a newbie with modest output bike u going be just feeling your way (track day)

To be honest watching a track day manfield. did look bit full on with the speed but i got no exp to judge everone looked in control though.

I dont think i going be tranformed into some fire breathing rossi wannabe i just want a place can go so dont worry about

getting a ticket but can push my bike more than whould on the road, down side your got no insurance probley chould be likehood u will fall off

so hence i give myslef and other lots of space id thought i move to left on strait bits let other have space to pass

id thought common sence and self presvation kick in

[actungbaby]

[QUOTE=sil3nt;1130684991]Crash is 1 minute in:



On the road i had that happen out very slow speed roundabout on cbr 900rr trying to do what did on vfr

I let it slide not snap the trottle shut but reduce it well just seems happen automatically with out thought.

its called feel for your bike and tires

[Drew]

Them thar be some mighty high tyre pressures!

Possibly too high. At the track last week on the RF shod with S20s, I started with 36 at the back and after it overheated in the first session and started sliding, I went up to 38. Was certainly an improvement.

The tyres are said to be of similar design in the quote, it was the last session so hadn't caused a crash earlier. I'd be inclined to put it down to rider enthusiasm more than tyre pressures with the limited information given.

What was the purpose of the article that the quote came from I wonder? From the snippet we can't tell of course, but it's a small leap to assume it's not adding all the information that riders need before they all go out and drop 10psi in their hoops before they hit the track.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The tyres are said to be of similar design in the quote, it was the last session so hadn't caused a crash earlier. I'd be inclined to put it down to rider enthusiasm more than tyre pressures with the limited information given.

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That's how most of 'em come about for sure mate.

[Jay GTI]

Then perhaps rather than waving your big dicksaround, perhaps you could put yours and your mates experience to good use by offering some constructive ideas that have a go participants could take on board, in order to minimise events as shown on the two videos?

Getting a bit personal there Bro. I've offered to do that. Always have.

Personal insults aside, while awesome that you do take time to help noobs and the less skilled, there are limits.

Not done a bike track day (only ride off-road), but have done plenty of track days in cars and you really get all sorts of people on those. Some, like my step-dad, who was also big into track days, can start off with no clue, then slowly over a few years become a pretty decent driver/rider. Some, however, are just not good at that sort of thing, their brains are just not wired right, or what ever it is that means they just won't ever build the skills and understand the techniques to be anything other than a bit of a liability on the track.

You can't preclude those people from track days, unless they are repeatedly driving or riding in a manner that is putting themselves, or others, at risk. Just being a bit shit isn't reason enough to stop them joining in, you just need to identify those people and take extra care when you're close to them on the track.

Both my step-dad and myself have been pushed into the barriers by other drivers that did things that were so stupid, we were shocked these people could even get a driving license. But at the same time, we were both driving in a manner that assumed they did know what they were doing, so we put ourselves in the position that allowed a dumb mistake by an inexperienced driver to send us home on the back of a truck. It's not a race, you won't win anything by getting past them, if you spot someone who is obviously struggling, hang back or swing into the pits and leave them to go figure out their arse from their elbow on their own.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Personal insults aside, .

Won't copy it all and waste space...but all very valid points mate.