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**Scubbo** · 15th June 2016, 15:17

Originally Posted by 5150

My old CT110 did it in under 9secs, and without NOS......... When I threw it off a cliff.

lol I fail at maths

**5150** · 15th June 2016, 16:02

Originally Posted by Scubbo

lol I fail at maths

We won't hold it against you

**Autech** · 15th June 2016, 16:05

Originally Posted by Drew

It's no small achievement to go under 10 seconds on any road bike. The big hyperbikes are easiest, but you've still gotta be on the ball.

Yup, not easy to launch 180hp of bike which only wants to flip you off the back, so people can put the video up on youtube and laugh hysterically.

Wonder how the new anti wheelie, anti wheelspin, anti "youtube flipping video" systems are on a modern 1000cc bike, IE would an average rider be able to put in a 10sec pass relying solely on the electronics?

**EJK** · 15th June 2016, 16:12

Originally Posted by Autech

Yup, not easy to launch 180hp of bike which only wants to flip you off the back, so people can put the video up on youtube and laugh hysterically.

Wonder how the new anti wheelie, anti wheelspin, anti "youtube flipping video" systems are on a modern 1000cc bike, IE would an average rider be able to put in a 10sec pass relying solely on the electronics?

Ooh ooh! I can answer that!

*ehem* clears throat *ehem*

I don't know about more developed 2015+ superbikes but earlier anti-wheelie traction controls that came with S1000RR have quite aggressive throttle cut, like clutch pulled in. So yes, anti-wheelie works but I wouldn't use that as an advantage to go faster on a straight line. I've heard reports from other S1000RR owners they ran faster quarter mile time with DTC off. Here is a good demo: https://youtu.be/l3b3BkMELAM?t=12s see how throttle chops?

Next time when there is a drag event here at Ruapuna I'll see what time I get with full-throttle plus DTC on.

**Drew** · 15th June 2016, 18:04

Originally Posted by Autech

Yup, not easy to launch 180hp of bike which only wants to flip you off the back, so people can put the video up on youtube and laugh hysterically.

Wonder how the new anti wheelie, anti wheelspin, anti "youtube flipping video" systems are on a modern 1000cc bike, IE would an average rider be able to put in a 10sec pass relying solely on the electronics?

2015 RSV4 Tuono gets strangled to death.

**Drew** · 15th June 2016, 18:06

What's awesome to see, is when someone with a mildly wanked Busa is cutting low nines. That tard chucks a turbo on the same bike, and couldn't get under a ten. Oh how we laugh at Todd Spiers.

**husaberg** · 15th June 2016, 18:32

Originally Posted by Autech

Yup, not easy to launch 180hp of bike which only wants to flip you off the back, so people can put the video up on youtube and laugh hysterically.

Wonder how the new anti wheelie, anti wheelspin, anti "youtube flipping video" systems are on a modern 1000cc bike, IE would an average rider be able to put in a 10sec pass relying solely on the electronics?

**Ocean1** · 15th June 2016, 19:47

Originally Posted by EJK

Ooh ooh! I can answer that!

*ehem* clears throat *ehem*

I don't know about more developed 2015+ superbikes but earlier anti-wheelie traction controls that came with S1000RR have quite aggressive throttle cut, like clutch pulled in. So yes, anti-wheelie works but I wouldn't use that as an advantage to go faster on a straight line. I've heard reports from other S1000RR owners they ran faster quarter mile time with DTC off. Here is a good demo: https://youtu.be/l3b3BkMELAM?t=12s see how throttle chops?

Next time when there is a drag event here at Ruapuna I'll see what time I get with full-throttle plus DTC on.

Does look a little abrupt. Not dangerously, but it looks all or nothing.

I'd like to get the SDR on a strip too, it seems pretty good at holding the front juuust off the ground. Certainly better than I could manage, so I suspect leaving it on and focusing on getting the body as far fwd as possible without causing trouble out back would be the go.

**nzspokes** · 15th June 2016, 19:52

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Does look a little abrupt. Not dangerously, but it looks all or nothing.

I'd like to get the SDR on a strip too, it seems pretty good at holding the front juuust off the ground. Certainly better than I could manage, so I suspect leaving it on and focusing on getting the body as far fwd as possible without causing trouble out back would be the go.

From what I have read the angle sensor just behind the headstock can be undone a little and the sensor "adjusted" to make it lift a little higher. May or may not be true but would be fun to find out.

**Ocean1** · 15th June 2016, 20:14

Originally Posted by nzspokes

From what I have read the angle sensor just behind the headstock can be undone a little and the sensor "adjusted" to make it lift a little higher. May or may not be true but would be fun to find out.

Sounds like something it'd be fun for someone else to find out.

Besides, lofting the front more would make it slower.

**Drew** · 15th June 2016, 20:23

Launch control uses wheelie and traction control, but it works differently to their normal operation. Mostly because the acceleration whilst the clutch isn't fully engaged means the revs will spike, and that'll set everything off.

I would be interested in testing a bike with and without the electrics. I back myself off the line a bit, dunno what way would be quicker though.

**AllanB** · 15th June 2016, 20:38

Launch control - the concept of pinging the throttle and dumping the clutch gives me the shits.

Reckon I'd munt it up even with the electronic trickery!

**Drew** · 16th June 2016, 06:16

Originally Posted by AllanB

Launch control - the concept of pinging the throttle and dumping the clutch gives me the shits.

Reckon I'd munt it up even with the electronic trickery!

You don't dump the clutch. It still has to be feathered. I think once the clutch is all the way out that's the end of the program and you're on your own.

**Autech** · 16th June 2016, 10:21

Originally Posted by Drew

Launch control uses wheelie and traction control, but it works differently to their normal operation. Mostly because the acceleration whilst the clutch isn't fully engaged means the revs will spike, and that'll set everything off.

I would be interested in testing a bike with and without the electrics. I back myself off the line a bit, dunno what way would be quicker though.

My only real life example would be that Diavel I had for a month in Canada. I turned it all off and gave it the goods off the lights, thought the clutch was slipping as the bike didn't get very far, looked behind and I'd left a nice black line for about 10 metres of the intersection. Great fun!

Hard to compare with and without as the fly by wire makes the bike a lot more twitchy too, so the throttle turned into more of an on/off switch than in the other modes. I would say that you would be quicker without it though as the times I had the traction control engage the thing got cut quite hard, much more than a controlled wheel spin would achieve.

Originally Posted by AllanB

Launch control - the concept of pinging the throttle and dumping the clutch gives me the shits.

Reckon I'd munt it up even with the electronic trickery!

Like this? Watch the right hand side of the camera, turns out you can flip an FXR.