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**Madness** · 8th July 2016, 20:47

What's this about lesbians?

**Katman** · 8th July 2016, 20:57

Originally Posted by Drew

That you don't want to ride them is fine. Condemning them on the whole is just stupid.

Please don't tell me that telescopic forks work the way they should when fitted at a 50 degree rake.

Add a hardtail and you've got the worst at both ends.

**Drew** · 8th July 2016, 21:23

Originally Posted by Katman

Please don't tell me that telescopic forks work the way they should when fitted at a 50 degree rake.

Add a hardtail and you've got the worst at both ends.

I have mused many times over the operation of forks pointing way the fuck out front like that. So long as they don't bend, they should work normally..albeit requiring more travel than if they had less rake.

Hard tail is superior to shocks with no oil in them. And that shit is common as fuck.

**Katman** · 8th July 2016, 21:28

Originally Posted by Drew

I have mused many times over the operation of forks pointing way the fuck out front like that. So long as they don't bend, they should work normally..albeit requiring more travel than if they had less rake.

Hard tail is superior to shocks with no oil in them. And that shit is common as fuck.

At 50 degrees of rake forks might still telescope much like normal under braking but they certainly don't react that way over bumps.

**Katman** · 8th July 2016, 21:30

Originally Posted by Drew

Hard tail is superior to shocks with no oil in them. And that shit is common as fuck.

Really Drew?

I do lots of WOF inspections and rear shocks without oil in them don't rank high in the failure stats.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th July 2016, 00:16

Originally Posted by Drew

I have mused many times over the operation of forks pointing way the fuck out front like that. So long as they don't bend, they should work normally..albeit requiring more travel than if they had less rake.

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For a guy that likes to comment a LOT about motorcycle design/handling etc etc, that's a fucking retarded comment.

**Drew** · 9th July 2016, 07:47

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

For a guy that likes to comment a LOT about motorcycle design/handling etc etc, that's a fucking retarded comment.

How so? I did say that it's just my musings. The fork still compresses over bumps, they just have to overcome more friction because of how they're loaded on the guides. And they have to travel further than they would with less rake because the action is less direct.

What am I missing?

**Drew** · 9th July 2016, 07:51

Originally Posted by Katman

Really Drew?

I do lots of WOF inspections and rear shocks without oil in them don't rank high in the failure stats.

So long as oil isn't leaking out, they aren't a failure are they? That's easy to achieve by cleaning the lost oil off them.

But the pogo is sketchier than a hard tail. My opinion only of course.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th July 2016, 10:45

It gets double takes. Twice. Ummmm...not surprised.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1119818239

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th July 2016, 10:48

Originally Posted by Drew

How so? I did say that it's just my musings. The fork still compresses over bumps, they just have to overcome more friction because of how they're loaded on the guides. And they have to travel further than they would with less rake because the action is less direct.

What am I missing?

Some with stiffer upside down forks aren't TOO bad. But RWU forks simple flex and bend rather than go through their travel as they do when not so raked out. Sure they compress a bit, but they flex and deflect off bumps like you wouldn't believe. Go ride one.

**AllanB** · 9th July 2016, 10:58

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

It gets double takes. Twice. Ummmm...not surprised.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1119818239

My main issue with this advert and similar - comments like it's the best GN bla bla- then a statement like it does not have a WOF as I don't have time to get one .... WTF you knob, get one - it will sell so much quicker plus a current WOF will validate the modifications you have made are at least like of legal. It will fail anyway - there is no chain guard for starters ......

I do like the custom indentations in the tank to allow clearance for the bars - that's real workmanship there.

Walk away .

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th July 2016, 11:21

Originally Posted by AllanB

I do like the custom indentations in the tank to allow clearance for the bars - that's real workmanship there.

Walk away .

Then there's the incredibly skilled job he's made of the seat... But hey..."Selling arguably one of the most beautiful gn bobbers out there. "...right on Bro!!!