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There's a local guy has brought some very tidy examples in from the USA. There is a local speedo repair business that I visit socially if out walking that direction and he has had the bikes in his shop for the minor mods needed to get a WoF.
At first sight I thought that may have been one of those bikes, but Napier is a long way from here
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Problem is with all of this is the Optimistic prices mean people don't sell bikes. For a business that means capital is tied up, or often credit so I comes with a double sting. Meanwhile others on the market see silly prices and aim near that and don't sell.
Prices of collectable bike will rise over time. This does seem to drive this market up so some will argue that it is a self fulfilling prophesy.
I'd argue yes but not one that benefits the optimistic seller. There's heaps of examples on TM that clearly can't find a market after over a year. Maybe in 5 years the market will rise enough, - maybe not but shit what a waste of everyone's time, capital and space.
Only a decent strategy if you had a dozen pristine Z1 in a secret warehouse and could play the long game then bleed them out in 2030 one by one.
Not that you'd be allowed to ride such a thing on the road.
The tips will be full of bobber CB400Ns that failed to be matched to enough cashed up yet stupid hipsters and market drops out the bottom as soon as the shaver becomes compulsory in modern workplaces as some health and safety measure.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
about as safe as bitcoin, the Z1 owners wanting to relive their youth and those who dreamed about having one will have all moved on, they don't sit well, requiring often heaps of work on carbs and re priming the oil to start etc. the Z1's have peaked in price and will often sit in collections as people are too scared to sell at a loss.
the only bonus is the 40 year old cheap rego, but that's no reeling in gs1000's Z1-R's and a whole new generation of bikes, and will continue to do so.
Fair call. I'm surprised as I've said before 1st year GSXR750s have sat on TM for a few weeks at circa $4500 several times. Chaps my age must be tight arsed -or just wanting 2 strokes which are expensive.
Perhaps I should have said RG500s.
Which also don't sit well.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
I'm not too alarmed about cb400n's getting a second lease of life what shits me is seeing a gorgeous Guzzi Daytona turned into a disaster by someone old enough to know better (didn't even have the nouse to keep the original bodywork) On the bright side that Buell Westwind has dropped from 20K down to $15k after about 7 years on trade me![]()
True - but I thought that karma - and it's effects when a fucked up owner attempts to sell a fucked up bike - was a secondary theme of this thread....
And the vendors of some of the bikes featured on here have taken some bloody heavy hits from karma.
But have they learned ?
Fuck no.
In my experience, yes true classic collectors bikes will generally continue to rise, but somewhat i will call "nostalgic classics" rise then fall or remain stable as the era of the collector dictates. People generally want cars/bikes that they had,or wanted to have in their youth. These "nostalgic" collections of these vehicles start when the collector is generally in the mid-thirties to 50's, ie Kids of their hands dual income = cash surplus.
As these people die off or move on to other hobbie or downsize a lot of these "non-true" classic collector vehicles lose their marketability and value.
By then of course the next generation collects what was "their fashion" and so the begins the next cycle.
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Yep, seeing that with cars, the vintage stuff my fathers generation were interested in are now getting hard to find a buyer for. Current flavour is 60's to 70's stuff, but already drifting later than that.
Unless it's really exotic and rare and has antique value in it's own right, it just becomes another old thing that's irrelevant to the generation that has the money to spend.
Riding cheap crappy old bikes badly since 1987
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