Optimistic sellers

[pritch]

Just as many people buy a sports bike and then shell out for a bunch of parts too. Is that different somehow?

Yeah although that seems to be worse in Britain than here, people fit purple screens and a bunch of garishly coloured anodised bits. Having said that, to a certain extent I've regarded my last four bikes as something of a blank canvas.

[jellywrestler]

This guy needs to give it a rest. This bike has some real value, but the market has spoken for the last year+ you've been listing it: your asking price is too high.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1867657990&

i got one of those, paid just over a third of that for it a couple of years ago, good solid cool bike, way more fun than my vincent to ride so that's on the market.
he should really be keeping an eye on ebay for the correct switchblocks etc, at that price people really want an investment and that means stock, or at least the parts on hand

[tigertim20]

no really over here, it's rare to see a stock harley, most sports bikes might have a muffler tail tidy stomp grip levers and rear sets, but that's about all they do.

Yeah but a pipe usually means a power commander as well. Rear sets ain't cheap and neither are pipes, or quality levers.

Late model bike is easily 2k plus for pipe 500 ish PCv 300 is rearsets 600-1000, pazos are a couple hundy. Adds up quick.

[F5 Dave]

I think you will find many don't buy the PC3 and aliexpress the rest, for better or worse.
(Cough) I have some very nice looking shorty levers sitting on a shelf as I had to conceed they didn't work as well as the originals.


Drew is trying to call me out on my brash statement, and to an extent he has a point.

But I'd argue that improvements on a sportsbike are much slimmer than on a ditch pump. Even the good lord Taylor proclaimed the std shocks were less than fit and combined with short travel.

[AllanB]

Just as many people buy a sports bike and then shell out for a bunch of parts too. Is that different somehow?

They wear brighter leather.


Same thing. Personalizing their ride. Healthy in my opinion.

[AllanB]

Yeah but a pipe usually means a power commander as well. Rear sets ain't cheap and neither are pipes, or quality levers.

Late model bike is easily 2k plus for pipe 500 ish PCv 300 is rearsets 600-1000, pazos are a couple hundy. Adds up quick.

I'd bet a beer the majority do not fit a PC or similar - just add the louder muffler.


I've just ordered myself a set of CRG levers for Christmas. Spiffier than a spiffy thing.

[AllanB]

But I'd argue that improvements on a sportsbike are much slimmer than on a ditch pump.

So you are saying you should spend money on improving a HD as opposed to a sportbike as you'll get better value for your money

[F5 Dave]

One might make that association but that is ignoring the ​sunk cost fallacy.

[Drew]

One might make that association but that is ignoring the ​sunk cost fallacy.

That's just motorcycling. Unless one is buying a $400 GN250 and hacking it to pieces then selling for $4K.

[F5 Dave]

Ah! So the dirty dirty truth comes out! You paid money for that GN

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah although that seems to be worse in Britain than here, people fit purple screens and a bunch of garishly coloured anodised bits. Having said that, to a certain extent I've regarded my last four bikes as something of a blank canvas.

tyres then suspension work followed by crash protection followed by pointless bling.... my 2c

[HenryDorsetCase]

One might make that association but that is ignoring the ​sunk cost fallacy.

Bag them all you like but take a modern one for a ride. They are surprisingly capable and fun bikes to ride. Plus they seem to hold their value well. I'd have one.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah but a pipe usually means a power commander as well. Rear sets ain't cheap and neither are pipes, or quality levers.

Late model bike is easily 2k plus for pipe 500 ish PCv 300 is rearsets 600-1000, pazos are a couple hundy. Adds up quick.

Am I right in thinking that the market for pipes and reflashes and so forth is drastically reduced on a new bike because Euro 4 and 5 and emissions bullshit means it is unlawful to change that stuff?

I could be wrong and I hope I am.

[tigertim20]

Am I right in thinking that the market for pipes and reflashes and so forth is drastically reduced on a new bike because Euro 4 and 5 and emissions bullshit means it is unlawful to change that stuff?

I could be wrong and I hope I am.

I don't think so, there's still plenty of providers offering flashing services. and its hard to spot a late model sportsbike that's bone stock, so Id say the vast majority are modifying still.

As far as I'm aware there aren't any countries that do any type of spot checks or WOF style checks that check for actual emissions so I think it's kind of a pointless rule since its willfully ignored.

edited to add that since most of the factory aftermarket parts providers (GYTR for yamaha for example) offer a variety of pipe options it's sort of shws that even the manufacturers expect people to modify the minute they roll their new ride out the door

[Honest Andy]

Bag them all you like but take a modern one for a ride. They are surprisingly capable and fun bikes to ride. Plus they seem to hold their value well. I'd have one.

My brother turned up one day a few years ago and gave me his new one for a blat. I just about lost it the first time I wound on the throttle and found myself pushed so far back in the seat I couldn't turn off the juice!
After that I only used half the power but kept scraping the footplates on every corner...
I gave it back and said "I don't get it"