Optimistic sellers

**sidecar bob** · 16th May 2020, 17:34

Originally Posted by jasonu

Here those are a true bargain. It is like a 1/2 price Ducati.

With twice the reliability.

**husaberg** · 16th May 2020, 18:42

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

I always loved the VF1000R and I nearly bought one because a super tidy one came up in my town for five grand. What put me off was the 260 kg wet weight really and it was another great big lardy thing to push about the garage. As I've gotten older I have valued light weight, nimble motorcycles (with a decent power to weight ratio) more and more.

What I should buy is one of the Aprilia V4's .....

An f
but wow, how times have changed looks well spindly despite weighing a quarter ton.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/mot...2627416353.htm

**pritch** · 16th May 2020, 21:26

Three Velocettes on TradeMe? Well, two and a half since one's a special. Who knew there were so many around?

**nzspokes** · 16th May 2020, 22:15

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Well that sent me down a rabbit hole. the consensus there seems to be they cut the VFR750 engine mounts off the 750 frame then welded them to the NC30 frame. Tight clearances (rear rocker cover, sump plug) but it worked. I actually can't imagine it being any more restricted than it already is especially round the front cylinders. But pretty far from "minor"

I actually really like this VFR800 I stumbled on - lot of bike for $5k https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/mot...c04e593e47-001

Plus, look at that bitchin colour. Purple is my favourite colour and thats purple metalflake like some 70's long chopper. Do want.

Looks lowered as well.

**Laava** · 16th May 2020, 22:58

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

With twice the reliability.

Bastard! I really want to dispute that! But, I. Just. Can't.

**sidecar bob** · 17th May 2020, 08:01

Originally Posted by Laava

Bastard! I really want to dispute that! But, I. Just. Can't.

Well you could, but you'd be wrong

**HenryDorsetCase** · 17th May 2020, 17:33

Originally Posted by nzspokes

Looks lowered as well.

a good thing from my hobbit perspective

**Drew** · 17th May 2020, 22:04

There is no good Ducati. They are all overpriced and under deliver.

These are the facts, and they are undisputed.

**ellipsis** · 18th May 2020, 08:28

...I think the Ducati Sogno was comparable to the Leica in quality, just smaller and operated by the left hand...

**jellywrestler** · 18th May 2020, 11:29

Originally Posted by Drew

There is no good Ducati. They are all overpriced and under deliver.

These are the facts, and they are undisputed.

all ducatis are good Drew, and that's where it stops, as you said overpriced and under deliver as people think they are actually great. as for having one of fifty shit, they produce so many 'collectors items' it blurs into insignificance

**pritch** · 18th May 2020, 11:40

When I bought a Ducati I did so in the expectation that it would ask more and deliver less than a Honda. So it was, but it did have its rewards.

Some years back a Ducati engineer was interviewed and commented in respect of Japanese bikes, "We can't compete on price, we can't compete on performance, and we can't compete with some of them on quality."

That doesn't leave much, I guess that's when they start talking "passion".