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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Correct but not me so that's why my value is lower than someone else may pay. Someone will likely pay 5-7 it just wouldn't be me. Not when 5-7 would buy me a bigger cc bike. 7g to spend for me would likely be a gsxr1000 2002-2006.
    Its likely a good bike but its smaller than I would buy once on a full licence. Its likely a lot (not all) riders after a sports bike on a full licence would do the same thing. Its primary market is lams if it was legal or collectors after an original un-modified vfr400 in mint condition.
    I would own a v400 over a 1000 easy. There are advantages to a bigger bike for sure, but there are just as many for a smaller one too.

    The way your mind is working, even classics (not collectors, just classics) that are under 650cc and LAMS legit should be useless and not bought by anyone but a learner. Is that the case?

    But yes, if your main value is engine size, then that is why you see no value in a smaller bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazz View Post
    I would own a v400 over a 1000 easy. There are advantages to a bigger bike for sure, but there are just as many for a smaller one too.

    The way your mind is working, even classics (not collectors, just classics) that are under 650cc and LAMS legit should be useless and not bought by anyone but a learner. Is that the case?
    The last line in the post already answers that.

    Its not lams legal and its not original either.
    I never claimed ALL riders with full licence would buy bigger sports bike but I would say most would in the 5-7grand price bracket.

    I would own an original r65 or rg500 or nsr250 and others under 660 but I would not spend up to 7g on that bike and idd buy a bigger bike if it was to be my only bike.
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    You really should ride one if you've not, they're a doddle to ride (unless you're approaching 6 foot). That has the factory subframe and fairing with it, and it wouldn't be impossible to find a pipe. Seems unlikely you'd ever lose money on it.

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    Got to be honest if I had the disposable free income I would be tempted by the RVF, but for me the RVF400 would be right up there in the top 3 of my dream garage.

    His price is a little optimistic,but if it is as good as it looks then he might just find someone stupid enough to pay it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    You really should ride one if you've not, they're a doddle to ride (unless you're approaching 6 foot). That has the factory subframe and fairing with it, and it wouldn't be impossible to find a pipe. Seems unlikely you'd ever lose money on it.
    Im 6 foot 4 and 100kg and have already owned a vfr400.
    The point is MOST people wanting a 5-7grand sports bike who have a full licence wont buy it as their only bike.
    Makes it primary market LAMS but its not legal or collectors so make it original.

    Asking price is $8.5 grand. Pay that and it very likely you will lose money.

    I never said there wont be a 5-7 buyer it just wouldn't be me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazz View Post
    It's not just a LAMS thing. Some people don't want/need/like bigger bikes
    Untill they ride a bigger bike ... Horse power rules ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumba View Post
    .. then he might just find someone stupid enough to pay it.
    AND ... He may even meet another honda rider ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Untill they ride a bigger bike ... Horse power rules ...


    If you have it ... you'll use it ...




    If you don't have it ... you just wish you DID ..
    Riding a 'slow' bike fast over riding a fast bike slow any day for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Untill they ride a bigger bike ... Horse power rules ...


    If you have it ... you'll use it ...




    If you don't have it ... you just wish you DID ..

    Bullshit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazz View Post
    Why kind of boring git wants to ride a bike that can do 300k, and the first 200 of that in 2, maybe even 1 gear around 50k and 100k zones with the odd squirt when they hope the fuzz aren't looking? And even then, it'll never corner as well as something lighter, and then you pay through the nose (by comparison) to run this monster at 1/10th its potential for 90% of the time you're on it. Farking cool yes, as the marketers have also pushed, but ultimately pointless.
    I take it you've yet to have a decent ride on a 100+hp bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    I take it you've yet to have a decent ride on a 100+hp bike?
    Reminds me there is some facebook photos of a welly 14r that lost it fairings at speed.
    Not sure I have seen the bike before. Its got a muzzy exhaust system.
    Think its on the Wellington Riders facebook site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazz View Post
    Riding a 'slow' bike fast over riding a fast bike slow any day for me.
    Everyone is free to ride what they like. I had fun on a low hp t100 bonnie for a year due to the feeling of riding hard without going fast.
    The fact still remains most riders reaching a full licence search a larger bike than a sports 400 unless they have another bike and want a screaming play machine for less dollars than 7grand up.

    There is always going to be exceptions but this bike as shown is neither original or lams legal so has a limited market audience in the price bracket.

    Tell me why I couldn't have the same fun on this bike for a fraction of the price.
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    +1 here for that argument.

    bought a running, registered VFR400 nc30 for $300, just to scratch once my full licence kicks in. But no way thats ever gonna be my primary bike!

    Wonder if I'll manage to get $3000 for it too once I've restored it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynemesis View Post
    +1 here for that argument.

    bought a running, registered VFR400 nc30 for $300, just to scratch once my full licence kicks in. But no way thats ever gonna be my primary bike!

    Wonder if I'll manage to get $3000 for it too once I've restored it?
    I think they are good bikes. Be great fun on the hill and in the twisty back roads but on the motorway and getting to the good roads im all for a bigger sports bike. To me there is a lack of about 40 extra hp for exiting corners also.
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    NC30's and 35's are already cult bikes.
    Shame on all of you.
    I wonder how many said the CB400f was just a small CB750



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