Optimistic sellers

[jim.cox]

I have always wanted one of these. The Brits press used to rave on about how great they were.
please buy and try it out for me.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/m...ing/5312354644

Nah Mate,
its the 500 you'll be wanting (and even it was gutless)

[Kickaha]

A GTS at an SS price

I doubt you'd get an SS at that price, not a tidy one anyway

[F5 Dave]

I imagine that you could get some nicely prepared replica bodywork and controls to fit to that if it was at a reasonable price, then you could Walter Mitty owning an SS, or even a Candy red GT. Or Orange. I like Orange.

Should have enough left over to pay the man servant to transport you within suitable distance of where you want to ,'arrive '.

As it is it looks like Ginacarlo Fillapa (spelling, but excellent superbike rider back in 1990 ish). His mother probably loved him.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I thought the 860's were conventional valve operation i.e. valvesprings not desmo.

is that right?

[jellywrestler]

I thought the 860's were conventional valve operation i.e. valvesprings not desmo.

is that right?

yip correct

[F5 Dave]

I thought the 860's were conventional valve operation i.e. valvesprings not desmo.

is that right?

That won't bother Walter in the slightest. Bevel and kick start is close enough.

Jesus, who signed off on that tank/sidecover arrangement?

Give it the low rent cafe racer, no sidecover, cx500 tank and brown seat cover. It would look terrible,. . . but an improvement.

[husaberg]

As it is it looks like Ginacarlo Fillapa (spelling, but excellent superbike rider back in 1990 ish). His mother probably loved him.

Win or die and massive wheelies either way.

I cant remember exactly how it went but there was a story of him falling of a bike in the the Euro MX series where he crashed off and ran into his team mate and he was that angry that he took off on his team mates bike by mistake, and rode like a demon got back to second of something only to be black-flagged for not having his own bike.
Every thing I have seen suggests massive wheelies in shallow sumped pre teslaretta dukes is not a good long term strategy but the bikes he used used have the engines changed each session.

I read something the other day about how the Cagiva owner paid him a pension after he had a serious injury on the 916.

[pritch]

I read something the other day about how the Cagiva owner paid him a pension after he had a serious injury on the 916.

It may have been Ducati who provided a pension although the company was perpetually broke back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giancarlo_Falappa

[F5 Dave]

Hey look. I got some of the letters of his name in the right places.
He was pretty cool though.

[jellywrestler]

but the bikes he used used have the engines changed each session.

each session? that's not right, you wouldn't want to start a race with an untried motor

[husaberg]

each session? that's not right, you wouldn't want to start a race with an untried motor

legend is They were bench ran in, then dynoed and they used something like 4-5 engines a meeting for each rider.
from everything I read The mechanics never touched them other than to put them in. No gear ratio changes were needed either.
This was the pretty widely spoken of in roche polen foggy era.
They were then crated up and went back to the factory. it was written down somewhere how many engine Roche or pollen used in a season somewhere. I have posted the number before.

The similar era GP bikes were far less labour intensive.

if you read the second attachment in the second column you will see it was only 87 when they got rid of the push starts on freshly rebuilt engines

[F5 Dave]

I was flag Marshalling when Roche exploded his in front of us (and then continued to the pit leaving a snail trail), so yeah I believe that they were quite fragile. Many crankcase itteraions followed. Bear in mind where the original design came from.

RC30s were reputedly too.

[husaberg]

I was flag Marshalling when Roche exploded his in front of us (and then continued to the pit leaving a snail trail), so yeah I believe that they were quite fragile. Many crankcase itteraions followed. Bear in mind where the original design came from.

RC30s were reputedly too.

endlessly watching that meeting is the main reason I have a 851sp2 (888) they were out to about 918cc 95.6mm or something on max bore at that stage.
My current boss got to ride roches bike back to the pits when he fell off in practice. Before he blew it up in the race He was reving the nuts off it.
Its also why my 851 race bike is having 916 cases (like everyone else does)

[jellywrestler]

I was flag Marshalling when Roche exploded his in front of us (and then continued to the pit leaving a snail trail), so yeah I believe that they were quite fragile. Many crankcase itteraions followed. Bear in mind where the original design came from.

RC30s were reputedly too.

if you look at the 888 ducatis they have a position for a kick starter, The original design was for a 350 and 500cc belt drive aircooled 2 valve twin. They rehashed and rehashed and rehashed the same bottom end for all those years includint water cooling 888 four valve units. A bit like Triumph with the 1938 500cc pre unit twin, this too got rehashed to unti then 650 and 750cc then they added a cylinder for the trident, never really starting with a clean sheet of paper.
Even the quadrant was a trident with another cylinder added on.

[jellywrestler]

legend is They were bench ran in, then dynoed and they used something like 4-5 engines a meeting for each rider.
from everything I read The mechanics never touched them other than to put them in. No gear ratio changes were needed either.
This was the pretty widely spoken of in roche polen foggy era.
They were then crated up and went back to the factory. it was written down somewhere how many engine Roche or pollen used in a season somewhere. I have posted the number before.

true they didn't try to fix them when here, but it wasn't a new donk every session