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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    This belongs in that thread that Henry has not set up yet
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    I cant think of a title for it (lame, I know)

    How about "Cool shit someone should buy me"
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    This belongs in that thread that Henry has not set up yet
    Just seen this I never realised he had 4t bikes as well as the TZ's

    I haven't seen him on KB for a few years malcy25 was Alister and Kerry was I cant rememeber?

    Its a similar price to other similar era 851 SP's I have seen, plus more realistic than a RC30 price appears to be now and far rarer.
    https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/m...0?bof=PT9gvK4v
    there were a lot less OW01's than RC30s made as well. according to Gooooooogle 500 Yamaha vs 5000 Honda
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    there were a lot less OW01's than RC30s made as well. according to Gooooooogle 500 Yamaha vs 5000 Honda
    I kind of thought i had said that?
    I hope to have my 851SP2 (1990)on the road for summer 2027 (380 made).. I posted a while back that Honda had made more RC30 than all of the Ducato 851 888's stradas and all. So its kind of perverse that a RC30's are then worth more? Same as the OW01's Should be on par or worth more than a RC30.


    that said I am surprised its only 500 especially has Aussie got 26 and the UK 150 odd?
    that said off google

    https://www.cyclenews.com/2023/04/ar...9-yamaha-ow01/

    guss as the OW01 never won a championship unlike the RC30 and 851?

    .When launched in 1989, the Honda and Yam were poles apart price-wise, with the Yam a whopping Ł12,749 and the RC30 Ł8499. By 1991 the Honda cost Ł11,337 and the Yamaha a princely Ł14,816. A lot of the price differential was made up in the race kits. As standard the Yam had more trick bits on it, so the race kit cost around Ł2500 compared to Ł8500 for the Honda
    Despite only 500 OW01s being made between 1989 and the end of 1992, Pete reckons he’s had ‘around 50’ of this total. And of that 500, only 140 or so were imported into the UK.
    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    I cant think of a title for it (lame, I know)

    How about "Cool shit someone should buy me"
    A most excellent tittle.



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    guss as the OW01 never won a championship unlike the RC30
    and there Id say ya have it in one
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    Yeah, the OW is mine. It's parked next to my TZ750 and TZ350!

    I don' have an RZ250R for sale DD!

    The OW01 is cooler than RC30's - they're the thinking mans bike not the "me too"buyers bike

    Google is wrong about how many built. the 500 quoted was year one for Homologation. They built more in 90, 91 and 92. I think about 2000 or so. Most have been rolled bowled and arseholed. I'd estimate 2000.

    There's multiple different yamaha Model codes depends on country , germany, UK, Swiss even( had a rectangular single head light, eek!, as did the 916!) , JDM.

    I think they only made about 500 RC45's .

    The Rc30's are very "Honda" the Yamaha is quite raw in comparison. I go a bone for one after Scott Buckley passed me at Ruapuna in jan 93 laying rubber and then popping and banging like a bastard on the over run into the next left. I was on my RS125 Honda on the open practice before the GP meeting. He'd bought the BP bike that Chris Haldane had broyght back from the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    and there Id say ya have it in one
    Ducati got their shit together and spoiled the party in that respect. I think the Yam proved to be a better bike in WSBK through 90-92 than the Honda. Honda riders were moaning from about 1990 about lack of speed .

    V&H got over 150hp from their OW's at the end. The story goes that they blew a rod out the front of the cases on the dyno. RaNg Yamaha with a" WTF , those are Ti rods". Yamaha said "how many HP?" V&H said " >150hp". Yamaha said "we only designed for 150 - never thought anyone would get near that!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcy25 View Post
    Ducati got their shit together and spoiled the party in that respect. I think the Yam proved to be a better bike in WSBK through 90-92 than the Honda. Honda riders were moaning from about 1990 about lack of speed .

    V&H got over 150hp from their OW's at the end. The story goes that they blew a rod out the front of the cases on the dyno. RaNg Yamaha with a" WTF , those are Ti rods". Yamaha said "how many HP?" V&H said " >150hp". Yamaha said "we only designed for 150 - never thought anyone would get near that!"

    Honda only would have had only one if Ducati had have turned up to NZ and Tadozzi on the yam fz powered Bimotas had have not fallen off in the rain here the same year.89?
    If Yamaha had of added the flat slides I think they would have been competitive longer.
    Greg always said you could make a Yam 5 valve fast or accelerate but not both. iI you had a high comp it spoiled the combustion shape t never rev'ed as the shape need too much advance.Awesome in std trim on the road though.p

    Pretty sure Doohan embarrassed everyone on one at Aussie just berore HRC picked him up. Gobert and corserwas able to win/nearly win a championship on RC30 just before the RC45 arrived against t well supported Ducatii Aussie team (Fraser's) but that RC30 was very special and not maybe 100% legal. (the Same as Gobert)

    funniest fact I can think of about OW01's is Tony Rees has been around now that long he was racing them new....



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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    I cant think of a title for it (lame, I know)

    How about "Cool shit someone should buy me"
    Interesting discussion, definitely needs its own thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Honda only would have had only one if Ducati had have turned up to NZ and Tadozzi on the yam fz powered Bimotas had have not fallen off in the rain here the same year.89?
    If Yamaha had of added the flat slides I think they would have been competitive longer.
    Greg always said you could make a Yam 5 valve fast or accelerate but not both. iI you had a high comp it spoiled the combustion shape t never rev'ed as the shape need too much advance.Awesome in std trim on the road though.p

    Pretty sure Doohan embarrassed everyone on one at Aussie just berore HRC picked him up. Gobert and corserwas able to win/nearly win a championship on RC30 just before the RC45 arrived against t well supported Ducatii Aussie team (Fraser's) but that RC30 was very special and not maybe 100% legal. (the Same as Gobert)

    funniest fact I can think of about OW01's is Tony Rees has been around now that long he was racing them new....
    Mick never raced an OW. They didn’t arrive until after he left to Honda, but Scott did later on. Mick destroyed everyone on the old FZR.

    The Aussie last hurrah of the Rc30 was the Winfield bikes and they were seriously trick, lot of work.

    Yeah, Tony and I have talked a bit about the OW’s. Told me earlier this year about getting his. Raced it pretty well much with not a lot of work at all.

    The UK in the early 90s I found out a while back to compete with the ducatis , a lot of the four cylinder bikes like the OW and ZXR were actually more like 840cc! Gentlemen’s agreement they wouldn’t protest each other🤣

    Stock carbs are the same basically as the FZR1000 and later the TRX850 actually. I can’t remember whether the last OWs had FCRs or just allowed to use. A mate has one with them.

    ‘Twas 88 at Manfeild that a Bimota was laying on its side at splash on the warm up lap of the last race. I got a photo just after and that was the only year I made it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    I cant think of a title for it (lame, I know)

    How about "Cool shit someone should buy me"
    Doo eet.

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    I had an SP YZF, the much cheaper in between bike. That has flatslides. Won BSB.
    Did always want an R7 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcy25 View Post
    Mick never raced an OW. They didnÂ’t arrive until after he left to Honda, but Scott did later on. Mick destroyed everyone on the old FZR.
    oh a plain FZR I never knew that? he was racing a YZf750 ie works F1 bike in Japan, So I assumed it was an OW01. everyday is a school day.

    Quote Originally Posted by malcy25 View Post
    Aussie last hurrah of the Rc30 was the Winfield bikes and they were seriously trick, lot of work.
    yeah full engines RVF F1 spec straight from Japan but with Std type carbs.
    looking on Google Corser was ran a RC30 for a part of the following year as well.
    Lots of protests over airbox etc which is hilarious as the Ducati Corse airbox is 100% different then the SP airbox.

    Quote Originally Posted by malcy25 View Post
    , Tony and I have talked a bit about the OWÂ’s. Told me earlier this year about getting his. Raced it pretty well much with not a lot of work at all.

    The UK in the early 90s I found out a while back to compete with the ducatis , a lot of the four cylinder bikes like the OW and ZXR were actually more like 840cc! GentlemenÂ’s agreement they wouldnÂ’t protest each otherđŸ¤Ł

    Stock carbs are the same basically as the FZR1000 and later the TRX850 actually. I canÂ’t remember whether the last OWs had FCRs or just allowed to use. A mate has one with them.
    I remember there used to be a lot of arguments over carb stuff. and over fork eligibility.

    plenty of honda converted race bikes like hawk bros used to use RC kit carb internals as well I do recall the kawak had FCR
    I think there was a later on rule that the carbs had to cost under X $ as one crowd was offering 12k kit carbs?
    Kawasaki's def had flat slides later on, as did I think the later GSXR?


    Quote Originally Posted by malcy25 View Post
    ‘Twas 88 at Manfeild that a Bimota was laying on its side at splash on the warm up lap of the last race. I got a photo just after and that was the only year I made it there.
    Dave was there in 1990.. (just beating you Dave)



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    Quote Originally Posted by malcy25 View Post

    ‘Twas 88 at Manfeild that a Bimota was laying on its side at splash on the warm up lap of the last race. I got a photo just after and that was the only year I made it there.
    that crash wasn't an accident the word was that bimota couldn't actually supply the paperwork with valid engine and frame numbers for the 200 manufactured bikes they were supposed to produce, and if they finished the race and scored points the protest would have been lodged.

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