Wellington city speed limit reducing to 30kmh?

**Swoop** · 4th February 2014, 08:43

Pedestrians:

Normally looking at their iDiot phone or with earphones blocking their hearing. They wonder why they walk into things FFS.

Primary school kids used to be taught about road sense and how to cross safely. With more and more introduction of technology into schools (article about a primary school with ipads, in todays Harold) we are going to see more "connected" citizens being "disconnected" from their device by a vehicle's front bumper.

Darwin is going to have some good times ahead!

**DMNTD:Me** · 4th February 2014, 08:51

Originally Posted by imdying

I think Chch drivers have reached saturation level, and you eventually get sick of driving past yet another unattended roadworks, with cones for no reason...

Yerp I've noticed that already down here. I'm sure that there is some logic behind it all but ffs it just appears that nothing is being done

**EJK** · 4th February 2014, 09:50

Originally Posted by DMNTD

Yerp I've noticed that already down here. I'm sure that there is some logic behind it all but ffs it just appears that nothing is being done

Don't you guys know? Those are free cones to take home!!!

**Ocean1** · 4th February 2014, 09:56

Originally Posted by imdying

I think Chch drivers have reached saturation level, and you eventually get sick of driving past yet another unattended roadworks, with cones for no reason.

Risk compensation. If you scream wolf too often people ignore you.

Some European city's have reduced their traffic fatalities dramatically by removing all of the rules.

http://knowledge.allianz.com/mobilit...duce-accidents

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wi...dents-dutch-to

http://www.dw.de/european-towns-remo...er/a-2143663-1

"Changes included the installation of a children's playground in the middle of one of the roads to force drivers to slow down."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-448747.html

Most "experts" say it's counterintuitive, but that sounds like an excuse to me, if they knew their business they'd have a handle on basic anthropology.

Whatever, it works, it's repeatable, it applies to more than just road rules. Do it.

**roogazza** · 4th February 2014, 10:29

We'll be setting up lazers/radars for speeding pedestrians next !
We are led by fuckwits trying to save us from ourselves.
I'm moving,going rural,fuck'em all.

Had a good ride Sunday tho,only had to hit the picks once, for a
'Judge Dredd', all morning.

**James Deuce** · 4th February 2014, 10:36

Originally Posted by rustyrobot

Yes we do.

No we don't. Our roads are outstanding when the population base (aka tax base) is taken into account, vs. the sheer kilometerage of roading infrastructure available in NZ.

The issue is how people use them. We don't need separation. We need to reintroduce the concept of the courteous road user back into the equation. People need to take responsibility for not only their skill and capacity to deal with ever-changing conditons from traffic density to weather, they also, and most importantly, need to take responsibility for the behaviour. We do not need more money hurled at road design, we just need road users to give a shit about other people. People. Not the iron box or iron horse the are riding in or on respectively.

**Akzle** · 4th February 2014, 10:49

Originally Posted by James Deuce

No we don't. Our roads are outstanding when the population base (aka tax base) is taken into account, vs. the sheer kilometerage of roading infrastructure available in NZ.

The issue is how people use them. We don't need separation. We need to reintroduce the concept of the courteous road user back into the equation. People need to take responsibility for not only their skill and capacity to deal with ever-changing conditons from traffic density to weather and they also, and most importantly, need to take responsibility for the behaviour. We do not need more money hurled at road design, we just need road users to give a shit about other people. People. Not the in box or iron horse the are riding in or on respectively.

hate to be the one to tell you, but sensible thinking has actually been outlawed by the "politicians make decisions for you Act" of about 1982.

**Taxythingy** · 4th February 2014, 10:55

Originally Posted by James Deuce

we just need road users to give a shit about other people.

This. Or else we go in the opposite direction:

Originally Posted by Swoop

Normally looking at their iDiot phone or with earphones blocking their hearing. They wonder why they walk into things FFS.

Set up a wiki page titled "Why did I walk into it?". Then they can find out with their phone so as not to do it in future. That'll work.

**rustyrobot** · 4th February 2014, 11:20

Hang on a second... these 'people' are having accidents and potentially not contributing to the ACC slush fund?

I suggest that EVERY pair of shoes in New Zealand require registration, with an ACC levy and administrative fee forming the bulk of the cost. Rugby boots, soccer boots and business shoes would of course be at a higher rate due to higher chance of accident. Jandals could be de-registered for the winter months.

Just think of the safety that could be gained through fines for non-registration!

**James Deuce** · 4th February 2014, 11:52

Now you're getting it!

**Robbo** · 4th February 2014, 13:11

Originally Posted by rustyrobot

Hang on a second... these 'people' are having accidents and potentially not contributing to the ACC slush fund?

I suggest that EVERY pair of shoes in New Zealand require registration, with an ACC levy and administrative fee forming the bulk of the cost. Rugby boots, soccer boots and business shoes would of course be at a higher rate due to higher chance of accident. Jandals could be de-registered for the winter months.

Just think of the safety that could be gained through fines for non-registration!

Ha Ha, great idea and then they may just reduce the levies on our bikes.

**willytheekid** · 4th February 2014, 13:25

Originally Posted by EJK

Don't you guys know? Those are free cones to take home!!!

REALLY!!

awesome!

**Clockwork** · 4th February 2014, 14:19

But if I have two pairs of shoes...... well I can only wear one pair at a time!

**BuzzardNZ** · 4th February 2014, 14:38

The fact that a number of main streets in the CBD have changed from one way to both directions doesn't help matters.
Those who have lived here for ages may have forgotten this and been hit by traffic as they walk out without looking in both directions.

I almost got collected for this very reason but luckily just got an angry blast from a pissed off car driver for my stupidity.