Wellington city speed limit reducing to 30kmh?

[SMOKEU]

No we don't. Our roads are outstanding when the population base (aka tax base) is taken into account, vs. the sheer kilometerage of roading infrastructure available in NZ.

The issue is how people use them. We don't need separation. We need to reintroduce the concept of the courteous road user back into the equation. People need to take responsibility for not only their skill and capacity to deal with ever-changing conditons from traffic density to weather, they also, and most importantly, need to take responsibility for the behaviour. We do not need more money hurled at road design, we just need road users to give a shit about other people. People. Not the iron box or iron horse the are riding in or on respectively.

These days there is no expectation of personal responsibility. Get drunk, run over and kill someone? It's not your fault, it's the easy availability of alcohol. Cross the centre line and wipe out another vehicle? Blame poor road design. Until driver training standards and (correctly targeted) law enforcement are taken seriously, don't expect much to change. The road toll will continue to decrease, but only because of safer vehicles as the older ones become decommissioned.

The fact that a number of main streets in the CBD have changed from one way to both directions doesn't help matters.
Those who have lived here for ages may have forgotten this and been hit by traffic as they walk out without looking in both directions.

I almost got collected for this very reason but luckily just got an angry blast from a pissed off car driver for my stupidity.

That's why you should always look both ways when crossing a one way street. Many times I've seen drivers going the wrong way down one way streets.

[McShanNZ]

That's why you should always look both ways when crossing a one way street. Many times I've seen drivers going the wrong way down one way streets.

I have to agree with SMOKEU on that - both ways... should be a reflex action. Heading home the other night Mazda CX7 decided he'd pull a left out of Pak n' Save - right turn only. Tooted alerting the individual to the potential ramification of said action only to be flipped off and tooted back at, he continued driving toward 3 vehicles across both lanes a short distance behind me...

30km/h enforced in the mighty metropolis of New Plymouth CBD. Not one accident that I'm aware of as a result - I don't recall an accident in the CBD when it was 50km/h either.

[James Deuce]

These days there is no expectation of personal responsibility. Get drunk, run over and kill someone? It's not your fault, it's the easy availability of alcohol. Cross the centre line and wipe out another vehicle? Blame poor road design. Until driver training standards and (correctly targeted) law enforcement are taken seriously, don't expect much to change. The road toll will continue to decrease, but only because of safer vehicles as the older ones become decommissioned.

Ahhh, so because everyone else is being a cunt that makes it OK?

[SMOKEU]

Ahhh, so because everyone else is being a cunt that makes it OK?

No, that certainly does not make it OK. But at the same time, one can't expect other road users to follow the road rules or to drive in an even remotely safe manner. It's really everyone for themself. I treat all other road users as if they're a homicidal maniac high on P who views every "frag" they get as a medal of honour, unless proven otherwise.

[James Deuce]

Be nice, FFS.

[SMOKEU]

Be nice, FFS.

I would be, if only staying alive on the roads wasn't a constant battle for survival from muppets opening car doors without looking, pulling out of intersections into oncoming traffic, driving on the wrong side of the road around blind corners etc.

[Ocean1]

I'm moving,going rural,fuck'em all.

I'll put the billy on.

[Flip]

I like the idea.




Why?


Wellington roads are very narrow and this tells road users who are mostly car drivers to keep the fuck out of the cbd unless they really have to go into the area. Which will mean the basin bypass and other ring roads will be used more and there will be less traffic in town when I go there next. Yes I do own houses in Wellington.