Fines

**zeRax** · 29th August 2005, 17:54

can someone please fill this thread in what what fines cost what
flat rates, cops discretion, please all of you whom have been giving helen money i ask of you to dig up those bad memories and pass them onto here

reason this popped up is mate reckons lack of L plate is $75, and i beg to differ, its $400 no?

**zadok** · 29th August 2005, 17:56

This should help: http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/55.html
Maybe...

**zeRax** · 29th August 2005, 18:07

so is any fine up to the cops discretion? says Maximum lack of seat belt fine is $150, for example, so can he give u a $50 if he isnt a prick? - example

**zadok** · 29th August 2005, 18:11

Hmmm...doesn't look that specific, does it?

**Sniper** · 29th August 2005, 20:09

Sounds like something a blenheim idiot would say

**spudchucka** · 29th August 2005, 20:24

No L plate will cost you $400 and 25 demerit points.

The amount of $$$ you are fined for a specific offence is pre-determined and not up to the cops discretion. This is for instant fines for minor offences,molre serious offences are resolved before the courts and the penalties are imposed by the courts.

**skidMark** · 29th August 2005, 20:28

Originally Posted by zeRax

so is any fine up to the cops discretion? says Maximum lack of seat belt fine is $150, for example, so can he give u a $50 if he isnt a prick? - example

bad example considering we are talking about motorcycles

**soundbeltfarm** · 29th August 2005, 20:32

Originally Posted by spudchucka

No L plate will cost you $400 and 25 demerit points.

The amount of $$$ you are fined for a specific offence is pre-determined and not up to the cops discretion. This is for instant fines for minor offences,molre serious offences are resolved before the courts and the penalties are imposed by the courts.

whats the deal with the L plate crap,
i know of 2 cops who have said they wont pull up a bike with an L plate on it if it travelling 100 kph and is going with the general flow of traffic.
but said if they pull it up for reckless riding or whatever , they will do the person if they have an L plate aswell as the other offences.
are most cops likewise in this thinking or if you see a bike going a 100 , riding sensibly but displaying an L plate do you stop them for it?

**spudchucka** · 29th August 2005, 21:11

As far as I'm concerned if I see any road user displaying an L plate then I treat them as someone who is aware of the rules and is abiding by them. Consequently I will seldom pull them overunless they are committing an offence that requires attention. If I catch the same person being an arse then they'll get the treatment they deserve regardless of whether they are an L plate rider or fully licenced.

**soundbeltfarm** · 29th August 2005, 21:16

Originally Posted by spudchucka

As far as I'm concerned if I see any road user displaying an L plate then I treat them as someone who is aware of the rules and is abiding by them. Consequently I will seldom pull them overunless they are committing an offence that requires attention. If I catch the same person being an arse then they'll get the treatment they deserve regardless of whether they are an L plate rider or fully licenced.

thats sort of what they are like too.
do many people displaying an L plate act like idiots?

**spudchucka** · 29th August 2005, 21:26

Originally Posted by soundbeltfarm

thats sort of what they are like too.
do many people displaying an L plate act like idiots?

Generally speaking - No. Plenty of learners do behave like idiots but they generally aren't the ones who actually display an L plate. Their learner licence status is often only disclosed after they come to your attention because of some foolish act or piece of shit car, by then its a case of, "Oh dear, you have a learners licence too, bad luck son".

**Lou Girardin** · 30th August 2005, 08:33

I hear that some redneck, small town cops in the states give discounts for cash.
Think it'll catch on here?

**scumdog** · 30th August 2005, 08:40

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

I hear that some redneck, small town cops in the states give discounts for cash.
Think it'll catch on here?

Not until they give us a cash register, reciept book etc to add to the other impedimentia we have dangling from our belts.....

BTW In small US towns the town council get the money from the tickets, hence the zealousness of the cops - who are also paid by the small towns.

You have Highway Patrol, State Trooper, County Sheriff, Traffic Police etc etc
so things are a bit more compicated over there.

**scumdog** · 30th August 2005, 08:45

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Generally speaking - No. Plenty of learners do behave like idiots but they generally aren't the ones who actually display an L plate. Their learner licence status is often only disclosed after they come to your attention because of some foolish act or piece of shit car, by then its a case of, "Oh dear, you have a learners licence too, bad luck son".

Kinda sums up my act too!!

Worst thing they did was give Learner drivers a licence, seems to blow their brains out the window when it comes to driving, you never see a kid driving but as soon as he's got that bit of plastic? - whooboy, he's everywhere at all hours driving with a car load of mates.
Excuses? they all start with 'just' - just going home, just taking my mates home, just testing my clutch, just being the sober driver, just going to mates place.......

If only the road code said it was o.k. for them to drive as long as the reason starts with 'just'