Motorcycle safety campaign. Yeah right.

[yevjenko]

I'm not really seeing the problem.

Apart from detaining you on your lawful business. putting the shits up you (make you think that you might have accidentally missed a speed-limit sign, which is what i would think if the blues and twos came on behind me), you actually wanted to go somewhere on your bike... that kind of stuff

[yevjenko]

you may take that attitude. Youre welcome to it.
I dont want to be stopped by anyone at any time for any reason.
unless ive somehow injured someone and am unaware of it.

Wow... I agree with Aklze on something

uhhh... I think I need a drink and a lie down

[AllanB]

Can you honestly say that you've never been stupid at any time in your life?

Shit no, done heaps of stupid things, the difference is I don't expect someone else to pay for my stupid actions if I hurt myself.

[caseye]

you may take that attitude. Youre welcome to it.
I dont want to be stopped by anyone at any time for any reason.
unless ive somehow injured someone and am unaware of it.

Yep, and this gentleman is the crux of the matter.
Those who see no problem in being stopped today, will tomorrow, when they're forcibly removed from their bike, because! they took too long to stop!
This of course would only be the opinion of the uniform who stopped them, but hey he's the law and we all agree with their rules.

I sure as hell do agree with Akzle on this one.

Unless I've broken some existing law for which I can be detained, I don't want to interact with anyone in a uniform who simply wants to waste my time talking to me.
What did happen to going about my "lawful business" without being unjustly disturbed???
I'll tell you aye, some of you didn't object when firearms licence holders had to forfeit their lifetime licences and resit every ten years. No One said a fucking word!
Then when they did the same to car licence holders there was one hell of a hullabaloo! Butt hey, done it with firearms licences , only fair innit?? Too late.
Then they changed the entire relationship of ordinary NZ'ers and ACC by decreeing that different groups of people who did different jobs that were more dangerous should pay more, what happened?
Oh nothing , you know NZ'ers are a laid back bunch.
Then we get to motorcyclists called bludgers and told we have far more crashes than car drives do and should pay more, did the rest of NZ get upset and demand equal rights under ACC as it was meant to be?
Nope, they just put their heads down and ignored the problem.
Butt wait.
Despite being told they'd be next, they just shrugged their shoulders and carried on.
When rego's did go up and when ACC taxing was increased just a little bit, Nothing like they'd done to bikes, wasn't there an uproar! not fair, not the intent of ACC, not paying! Yeah Right.
Suckers.
Divided and conquered, all the way to the bank!
to borrow one of S W's by lines.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

[Katiepie]

I got pulled over a few weeks ago as part of a motorcycle safety campaign. Officer told me my headlight was not working (explained it wasn't why I was pulled over) - I looked down, headlight working correctly - single side on Yamaha. He said I shouldn't be riding with only one light working. I almost had a giggle and explained it was the design of the bike, one side for low beam, both sides on high beam. He said he didn't believe that was true and suggested I go and get it fixed. Sigh.

He then asked me for my license right after muttering that I will no doubt be on the wrong licence for my 600cc sports bike. I politely handed my license over, sure enough full license. He was not impressed. Then mentioned he thought I may have been girl who broke my neck. I wanted to say no, but balls up telling fibs and said yes. I then got a lecture about how he didn't think it was safe for me to be riding long distance after such an injury, putting others at risk and myself.

I was thankful to get my license back and head off again on my Wellington to Auckland trip. It was about 20 minutes of time being told all that he thought I shouldn't be doing, and that I didn't seem to know a few basics about my own bike (he at first said it was no doubt a 250).

Had a bit of a laugh - didn't give me a lot of faith in this "motorcycle safety campaign"

[Crasherfromwayback]

Had a bit of a laugh - didn't give me a lot of faith in this "motorcycle safety campaign"

Prob just wanted a good perv at your arse Love.

[Katiepie]

Prob just wanted a good perv at your arse Love.

If saggy butt leathers do it for ya, then good for you!

[Crasherfromwayback]

If saggy butt leathers do it for ya, then good for you!

Phwoar!!!!!

[Big Dave]

Writing from Queensland - youse gots nuffink.

[FJRider]

Nothing gives them the right to detain you unless they suspect you of breaking a law. They certainly can't detain you to do a survey.

am I under arrest? Am I being detained as a suspect?

if not......good bye

Actually ... they CAN ...

You must stop if signaled to do so by a Police officer.

If in the course of his duties ... he requires you to answer questions (nothing in ledgislation specifying ANY particular topics) ... you must answer.

To impede an officer in the course of his duties is an offence.

You must remain stopped untill he allows you to leave. To not do so is an offence. (35 demerits and a fine)

[skippa1]

Actually ... they CAN ...

You must stop if signaled to do so by a Police officer.

If in the course of his duties ... he requires you to answer questions (nothing in ledgislation specifying ANY particular topics) ... you must answer.

To impede an officer in the course of his duties is an offence.

You must remain stopped untill he allows you to leave. To not do so is an offence. (35 demerits and a fine)

Bullshit.

see section 23
they cannot detain you for a survey

http://www.justice.govt.nz/publicati...ed-or-detained

An officer can stop any car at any time to check for warrant, registration etc. You and your passengers have the right to remain silent, but must give your names, dates of birth, addresses and the registered owner of the car. The driver can be detained for up to 15 minutes to establish identity.


An officer can search your car if


you agree, or
they have reasonable grounds to believe there are drugs in the car and invoke the Misuse of Drugs Act s18, or
they have a search warrant, or
they arrest you and you’re with your vehicle at the time, or
under the Crimes Act police can search any car and its occupants for stolen property.

prove me wrong

[FJRider]

Bullshit.

I think you may find legislation has changed a bit since 1990 ...

[Akzle]

well. They did just ram through the Schutz Staffel/Search & Surveilance Act.

But acts are for actors. Fuck that shit. I direct my own show.

[nzspokes]

putting others at risk and myself.

I know this well. I had may doctors, nurses etc say I shouldnt be riding when I was in hospital seeing my girl after her crash. One nurse got on my tits so I asked her in the middle of her spiel what had happened to the lady in the next bed. Nurse said a car crash. Then I asked her if she had told the lady not to go in cars again. She shut up and fucked off.

[skippa1]

I think you may find legislation has changed a bit since 1990 ...

i think you might find it disapointing that it was introduced in 1990, minor review in 1993 amended 2001(not to the applicable parts being discussed)reprinted in 2013 and still stands unmolested today.