The experts speak yet again

[tbs]

Depressing really, the same tired old cliches trotted out yet again. As for the "born agains" being out-ridden by their bikes; many modern bikes are capable of far more than their riders. I know mine is

Yeah, I reckon that one about the 'born agains' needs changing.
Wouldn't it be refreshing just for once to read:

"There are too many returning riders who used to ride bikes when they were younger and were shit at it then, and it turns out they're shit at it now too."

[HenryDorsetCase]

"There are too many returning riders who used to ride bikes when they were younger and were shit at it then, and it turns out they're shit at it now too."

GOLD!!!

absolutely right.

[actungbaby]

The only thing that committed suicide was the English language.

see you ride a harley am sorry for your plight hehe

[f2dz]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11212617


Mr kirkwood two fingers and rasbbery at the same time ... am not born again biker

And can control my bike just as well as did when was 20 if not better with conidence and mature outlook

Getting bit sick all the crap written about it look kkenny roberst got on his tz 750 at the speedway .

I chould say they harleys that cant take the corners and generlize that as well (harlyes cause increase road toll )

You sour puss old git lol sour puss old gits bring everone down cause increase in suicuide rates ..

No need to get bitter about it. How do you think young people feel every time there's a huge stink about them being young/inexperienced/reckless when it comes to driving cars?

If you're not one of the riders he's referring to then who cares? I think it's quite an important issue personally.

It seems kinda crazy that a guy in his advancing years can jump on any bike he wants after only doing a 'scratchy test' back in his 20s..

[actungbaby]

Yeah, I reckon that one about the 'born agains' needs changing.
Wouldn't it be refreshing just for once to read:

"There are too many returning riders who used to ride bikes when they were younger and were shit at it then, and it turns out they're shit at it now too."

its free country if am sthit riding in your opion well thats fine i ride to my abilty whats shit riding anyways ?

Slow spliting lanes i dont do that but not going rip into u if you wish to .

Must say doesint worry to any degree when driving my car . i surpose where was coming from but am very tolrent person .

Have all notiched how much people getting cranky toot horns at the drop of a hat . dont do to me on bike but when in my car.

Other day was waiting for pedestrains and guy behind chouldint see am waving dude showed him and was all good.then thumbs up to him.

I get embarrsed at the lights as have you notiched if your turning right at the lights (yes pammy has two sets ) cars pause the other side.

Thats me asusming they have had dudes on bike rip in front doing right hand turn even if they dont have right away.

I must say i like being agressive rider at times keeps concertaion up but good to relax too . people like to say ,do onto them what what u expect back

In return.

[actungbaby]

Not everyone has the time or ability or inclination to write the masterful prose that some of you write. Give the guy a break: he usually makes sense - you just might have to read it a few times.

Time is my factor got household to run... taxi service to run estate to handle bikes to fix lol

Thanks mate back to the subject though

[actungbaby]

No need to get bitter about it. How do you think young people feel every time there's a huge stink about them being young/inexperienced/reckless when it comes to driving cars?

If you're not one of the riders he's referring to then who cares? I think it's quite an important issue personally.

It seems kinda crazy that a guy in his advancing years can jump on any bike he wants after only doing a 'scratchy test' back in his 20s..

Wrong on two counts and not getting upset about it.

I did my licence test at 15 years of age i had cop ride behind me for my test they failed guy before me for not putting on his indcator.

and that was that 30 sec u failed. i sat written test (no scratchs in my day ) we had licence book it had to be updated alot.

I got my two stage licence from memory didnt just go to full i had to gain the exp which i have .

experince learned is not lost..it might take little time to fully kick in but its always there.

depending on the bike u can ride motorbike safely if you can ride pushbike really well after you have enough exp riding the motor powered bike.

Its not rocket science people common sence you twist the go switch one way to go forward one way to slow down.

Then its the exp of a lifetime to make correct calls.

[Akzle]

i wonder if you old gits actually struggle with communication
or just do it because we're kb and being dicks is always in vogue.

[Katman]

"There are too many returning riders who used to ride bikes when they were younger and were shit at it then, and it turns out they're shit at it now too."

That's very true. But when you throw in the fact that a 1980 GS10000 and a 2014 GSXR1000 are two very different bikes and the 2014 version can be doing twice the speed that the older one could reach between two close corners, things get even uglier.

[roogazza]

Ahhhhh ! the infamous Mr Allan R Kirk!
I've been riding for 50 years as well, but I reckon I'm a fuck sight better looking !
He's been writing the same shit for years.
Resident expert my arse.

Off for a lie down.

[tbs]

That's very true. But when you throw in the fact that a 1980 GS10000 and a 2014 GSXR1000 are two very different bikes and the 2014 version can be doing twice the speed that the older one could reach between two close corners, things get even uglier.

Yeah, my first response was going to be: which cliche are we talking about here? Is it the guy riding his bike off the outside of a curve, or the guy riding it into a turning vehicle? Talk about cliche!

Also, I forgot one bit in what I did say.... It was going to read "... were shit at riding then but thought they were awesome, and they still think they're awesome, but it turns out they're still shit."

[Paul in NZ]

That's very true. But when you throw in the fact that a 1980 GS10000 and a 2014 GSXR1000 are two very different bikes and the 2014 version can be doing twice the speed that the older one could reach between two close corners, things get even uglier.

And I'd be reckoned a shit rider on both of them but then I'm more interested in surviving than I am in looking cool or going fast...

[swbarnett]

The fact remains that there has been a blip in the statistics, so it may pay us all to pause and think about how we ride?

A blip in the statistics is just that - a blip. The numbers are almost never evenly spread over time. A bump now, a dip then; it all levels out in the long run. Start worrying when you see a trend over a statistically significant period.

Having said that, it's never a bad idea to think about how we ride. I do it every time I'm on the bike. And often when I'm not.

[actungbaby]

A blip in the statistics is just that - a blip. The numbers are almost never evenly spread over time. A bump now, a dip then; it all levels out in the long run. Start worrying when you see a trend over a statistically significant period.

Having said that, it's never a bad idea to think about how we ride. I do it every time I'm on the bike. And often when I'm not.

Your right on me too , and in the car That looking at a target somone selse mentioned thats been failing of mine . got train my

Mind . Mind you in emergency it can all go to pot.

[actungbaby]

And I'd be reckoned a shit rider on both of them but then I'm more interested in surviving than I am in looking cool or going fast...

yes thanks agreed . simple we get one with it thats great i reg use my bike for very small distance.s errands

Complancy can creep in . as youth i thought id have someting to prove go fast that where more likey to have a crash.

Not because you so called shit rider but becuase you emtions are up . and trying to hard.

Paul to my mind you be exllent rider cause its attitude not technique out of a book reading ketih codes to roadracing not going make u

better person lol Thats hang up i still have somtimes let it go dude i tell myself crap ur 50 . u live way u want to not worry others think.