mordern litre bike debate...everyones opinions wanted!

[inlinefour]

Why do you need to buy a mordern litre bike?

Is it just a penis extention??

These bikes usually have 160-170kmph first gears...so if your going through most of the twisties in NZ are you going to be in 1st ?
After all that rush of aceleration we all enjoy is in the last 3000-3500rpm of the rev range...is it not?

are you going to be riding around on a bike that in real terms is going to be only as fast as your mates 600 through the twisties? I'm right arn't I ?

we don't ride on race tracks all that often do we?

So has all you 1k boys out there got any reason for owning a modern litre bike other than to make yourselves think your faster through the twisties because you have 150-170hp between your legs?

And come on people lets have a good debate/argument here...none of this sitting on the fence crap...I want to know what people think?

Its to make up for inadequaces elsewhere, whether being a lack of genetailia (sp) or lack of riding ability. I'll go and hide now

[Coyote]

Personally, ive got a 600 because that is the stage i am upto... I can thrash the ZXR400 to its absolute limits, and am slowly increasing my limits to find the limits of a racetrack... SO the next step up is a 600...

Will you be selling your ZXR anytime soon?

[Rainbow Wizard]

Bigger is definitely more appealing but is it always practical? I now ride what is considered by most to be a rather dull machine. It suits both my purse and my purpose. It covers most of the biking experience that I want to have these days and it's very reliable.

Now I own an ancestor of John's TransAlp, the NTV650 is a great bike. Probably a bit perkier than the Alp yet definitely dull compared to the Voxan. But I like both, for different reasons. However both are expertly engineered and it'd take a real nit-picking twit to knock the Voxan on that count. Its 110kW and equal Nm of torque is way less than most mordern sprotbikes but wow! what a package: engineering, looks, versatility, handling, power....I reckon they'll outlive most current 1000s in the long run, even if only for that wee bit of conservatism necessary to produce a good all-rounder.
Personal choice or horses for courses Cowpoos, anything else could be shite.

[Zed]

Why do you need to buy a mordern litre bike?

Is it just a penis extention??

Sure thing, in this world vanity, vanity, all is vanity!

The modern litre bikes are the fastest and most powerful production motorcycles ever - who wouldn't want one? There is something in all of us that desires the best of the best!

All this nonsense about "needing" one, etc, etc is irrelevant.

And come on people lets have a good debate/argument here...none of this sitting on the fence crap...I want to know what people think?

What I think is that a lot of people spout on about a subject they know little about - don't knock it till you try it! And I'm not talking about 'test riding' either, I'm talking about owning and spending many hours riding one. Like WT says, he'd find it hard to go back to a 600 now that he's found his groove in the 1000, and as LB said it is a step up! Listen to them, they know.

Bruce let me take his K3 1000 for a blast a month or so ago and I really enjoyed it. It didn't blow me out of the water like they seem to with some people, maybe cos I've been riding a fairly fast bike for 6 months now and am confident with a similar power delivery, but what excited me most was the *weight* factor in comparison to my Blackbird!! Yep I can tell you that front comes up mighty easily...

I'll buy a modern thousand in the near future and I'll love it - guaranteed! For me it's about my enjoyment, not how others feel about it.

[Two Smoker]

Will you be selling your ZXR anytime soon?

Yes, early next year... so start saving...

[froggyfrenchman]

how can you ask? late model thousand.... the very definition of motorcycling... huge wheelies, long stoppies, fast, handles real well. and can easily handle the weekend that the missis wants to go for a trip and packing light means 50kg.

[Coyote]

For me it's about my enjoyment, not how others feel about it.

Damn right. It's a laugh at school how many people say "why didn't you get a car?". I say "Cars don't wheelie", to which they reply "Well motorbikes can't have a sub in it" (followed by smug look). What was even more of a laugh was when I was getting ready to go after school, some 7th former shouted out from his car "MOTORBIKES ARE GAY" Still ride to school on the bike, bugger what they think.

Also, why does everything suddenly have a sexual gender thats inclined to go for the same sex, despite not having a sex at all nowadays? People are morons

[Coyote]

Yes, early next year... so start saving...

Will do, count on it

[Magua]

I'd buy a 1 litre vtwin, but I don't think I would ever buy a litre gixxer, cbr etc. I don't need nor want that much power, it's just nuts.

[Dafe]

WHY DOES A DOG LICK ITS BALLS?

Ummmmm - Coz it feels so good???

[cowpoos]

Litre sports bike + Wet twisties roads = No fun!! - Bull Shit, if you cant ride it'd be no fun, i love riding my thou in the wet and it's a piss of peice to go fast, the thou has so much more torque you dont have to be up in the revs to go fast, same as a twin, lazy almost, i had more moments in the wet on my TL than the GSXR,

Reason for that bruce...as you will be aware of...TLS rear spring on tls is 650 pounds....needs to be 750-850....the bike squats like a pig with a terrier hanging of its nuts...also it has a THING called a rotary damper...it does about as much damping as you ride slow....not often!!! lol


If you have a TLS fix the suspension...ohlins,penske,biturbo what ever...and revalve and spring the front...aswell...you will then realise how good they can be!!!!

[Two Smoker]

Reason for that bruce...as you will be aware of...TLS rear spring on tls is 650 pounds....needs to be 750-850....the bike squats like a pig with a terrier hanging of its nuts...also it has a THING called a rotary damper...it does about as much damping as you ride slow....not often!!! lol


If you have a TLS fix the suspension...ohlins,penske,biturbo what ever...and revalve and spring the front...aswell...you will then realise how good they can be!!!!

Wat choo talkin bout willis??? Tls handle razor sharp they just need abit of muscling around...

[cowpoos]

If you have doubts, that's cool. If you do want to see for yourself, contact me and I'll hook you up for a quick ride with the fast boys.

You pressume I'm slow on a bike...and you know that because????

and besides that...I'm not acctually bashing litre bikes...I'm just developing a good debate in which I'm curious of peoples opinions...as its hard to debate in ones own heads the pro's and con's....and you also won't see everyones point of view....aye?? and some people look at things from un thought of angles.

but I do wonder at times though?

[cowpoos]

And another pooint to bring up - Redlining in the twisties - Think about this my K3 does 150kph in 1st gear and a shy over 200kph in 2nd gear, now if you can get it too red line in say a twisty road like Whangamata - Waihi you my fucken hero. Just cause it's not red lining doesn't mean i not on the edge or thrashing it.

Hmmm....so your riding off the boil then??

[Torque]

The main reasons for owning a 1000 sports bike are.

* Lots of grunt out of the corners.
* Lots of Torque around and out of the corners.
* You don't have to rev the balls out of the engine unless you want to leap up the road.
* You have it all, you can cruise with your 600 mates or just leave them at the side of the road!
* And if you have a really big P--ck then you have nothing to prove.
* The new litre bikes are nearly the same size and weight as the 600 and handle really well around corners so why not have the best of both worlds and get the most powerful and fastest bike you can buy.
* You just cannot beat winding open the throttle in the right conditions on a litre sports bike. The last 4 bikes i have owned have all been 1000cc or more and i find i ride safer and enjoy my riding way more than riding a smaller bike. Saying that though i have started racing a 400cc and even with the lack of power i still have that grin factor. Every one to there own thats what i say.