A sobering read

[BoristheBiter]

The feelings mutual. Comes from being hit twice by drunks and no one giving a fuck except to lecture the fuck out of me for riding one of them dangerous motorcycles - for months on end. Funny how the "brotherhood of motorcyclists" fucking disappears when you really need help.

Give a cop a pulpit and it's a terrible tragedy. I had to hold my brother-in-law down at 14 years of age while he had a gastric lavage after being run over by a drunk on the footpath outside his school, so they coul dfind the blood vessel he was bleeding to death out of. I don't give a fuck what anyone "thinks" about what I said. I do give a fuck that being a cop somehow makes his pain all the more tragic. Hundreds of people suffer the same shit every year.

Then maybe instead of being a complete fucktard about it maybe you should point your anger not at the police, that have caught this guy before, but at the judges that keep letting him out.

[jasonu]

This guy has his 18th EBA conviction.

He should be killed.

So how many convictions is too many??? 30, 40 maybe 50 before the key is thrown away? NZ law says it is serious about drunk driving and they certainly appear to be with all the check points and booze busses. This sort of person and the totally lame penalties imposed make a mockery of the system.

[BoristheBiter]

So how many convictions is too many??? 30, 40 maybe 50 before the key is thrown away? NZ law says it is serious about drunk driving and they certainly appear to be with all the check points and booze busses. This sort of person and the totally lame penalties imposed make a mockery of the system.

Yep, the judges are a bunch of soft cock useless mofo's, and that goes across all offending.

[Akzle]

Come come James. The point of the article has nothing to do with him being a Policeman, and citing such a distraction detracts from the problem. And as you well know, sensationalism sells advertising, which is what the owners of commercial media want. I'm certain you could get onto mainstream media in a story like this if you wanted.


It seems from this article the problem is a person who has no respect for others, and as a consequence, no respect for their rules (aka, the law of the land). He has nothing, and hence "punishments" that take things away from him will have little impact.

There is probably only one thing he highly values, and that is alcohol. Figure out a way to take that away from him and you'll certainly have his attention.

the "law of the land" is not "legislation".
Legislation provides for weasel tactics, and gets jews paid.
I have (some) respect for others, ie, i avoid fucking up other peoples' days.
But that isnt because its illegal to. And i have no respect for the intent, nor application of legislation.

The solution would be to ban alcohol. Good luck getting that voted in. (hint, theres money to be made all the way along...) innit.

[Akzle]

So how many convictions is too many??? 30, 40 maybe 50 before the key is thrown away? NZ law says it is serious about drunk driving and they certainly appear to be with all the check points and booze busses. This sort of person and the totally lame penalties imposed make a mockery of the system.

shh!...listen.....*kaching*

!! Hear that??...

Thats the jewstice system at work.

[Akzle]

the above attitude is precisely why we have the drink driving problem in this country

ive never crashed, car, truck, bike, boat or anything else, while high, drunk, or exceeding the posted speed limit.
Given that at least 30% of my driving (~2 decades) has been done under 1 or more of those conditions, it would suggest the problem isnt booze. Its fuckwits.

[SMOKEU]

So how many convictions is too many??? 30, 40 maybe 50 before the key is thrown away? NZ law says it is serious about drunk driving and they certainly appear to be with all the check points and booze busses. This sort of person and the totally lame penalties imposed make a mockery of the system.

That's a good question. The PC crowd will of course say that he deserves an infinite number of chances to kill innocent road users.

[SMOKEU]

But if it were up to me I'd support preventative detention (open ended sentence) after the third or fourth offence, and only release the prisoner if they can convince a judge, or panel of judges that they are no longer a menace to society, after serving at least 10 years of that sentence.

The people that make these laws are callous enough to view each life lost in road accidents as just another number, until one of their loved ones dies in such a crash.

[caseye]

Three STRIKES and you are OUT! Gone for bloody good. a Waikato person driving drunk head oned my mum and dad on the Tahuna road 16 years ago. Had he lived ( there is a God!) it would have been his 14th conviction for DIC.My apretns meantime went htorugh the next 16 years in pain and for my dad agony because fo this nice guy who the Waikato times described as a gentle giant. I called him a fat useless drunken local ( he lived 2 k's from the accident scene) who nearly cost my family and I our parents.
2 times with a third being incarceration for good, then we'd all know our pollies are serious and many would simply not drink at all if they were required to drive. Hell our girls all have cars and none of them drink and drive ANYWHERE.

[FJRider]

That's a good question. The PC crowd will of course say that he deserves an infinite number of chances to kill innocent road users.

If it was YOU that was caught ... how many chances would YOU want .. ??

Even if you were never caught ... how many times were YOU guilty of the same offense ...??

[SMOKEU]

If it was YOU that was caught ... how many chances would YOU want .. ??

Even if you were never caught ... how many times were YOU guilty of the same offense ...??

I don't drive pissed so getting busted doesn't worry me. Everyone makes fuck ups, so I'm not advocating severe punishments for first time offenders. So how many chances do you think someone should have? Until they've killed one person? 2 People? 5 People?

[Virago]

yeah best be careful as its super easy to be over the limit these days and that alone does not make you a dangerous driver...

Like others I'm struggling to understand your post. NZ has quite high drink-driving breath / blood limits, which haven't changed in many years. Why is it "super easy to be over the limit these days"?

[FJRider]

I don't drive pissed so getting busted doesn't worry me. Everyone makes fuck ups, so I'm not advocating severe punishments for first time offenders. So how many chances do you think someone should have? Until they've killed one person? 2 People? 5 People?

How many chances would YOU want .. ??? that question wasn't answered ...

I doubt you have never operated any vehicle under the influence ... just never (admitted) being caught ..

[Paul in NZ]

Like others I'm struggling to understand your post. NZ has quite high drink-driving breath / blood limits, which haven't changed in many years. Why is it "super easy to be over the limit these days"?

Oh for fucks sake.... Its just a bloody phrase... Yes - occasionally someone gets a DIC for a wierd reason. Stick you sanctimonious tripe up your arses because it happens and while i don't approve a few points over does NOT make most people swerve at oher road users... My post was in response to suggestion anyone with a DIC should be shot which is stupid. There is a HUGE difference between 1 DIC (which I have never had btw) and 6 DIC's coupled with deliberately swerving at riders.... The man is obviously sick and can't help himself... hes a fuckin menace...

I posted the link originally because I was horrified...

Now I'm even more horrified... Not one of you even seems to care that what seemed like a decent bloke was effectively killed by this? I thought I might make 10 years of KB but I bloody doubt it...

[Brett]

The feelings mutual. Comes from being hit twice by drunks and no one giving a fuck except to lecture the fuck out of me for riding one of them dangerous motorcycles - for months on end. Funny how the "brotherhood of motorcyclists" fucking disappears when you really need help.

Give a cop a pulpit and it's a terrible tragedy. I had to hold my brother-in-law down at 14 years of age while he had a gastric lavage after being run over by a drunk on the footpath outside his school, so they coul dfind the blood vessel he was bleeding to death out of. I don't give a fuck what anyone "thinks" about what I said. I do give a fuck that being a cop somehow makes his pain all the more tragic. Hundreds of people suffer the same shit every year.

I don't think it's fair to claim that he is getting the attn because he's a cop, if that is the case, then yes...it is unbalanced, but I would rather see it as a small win for motorcyclist...at least they're listen ing to someone...if it took a cop to have a voice of advocacy, then hey...better than no one isn't it?