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    CBT - and why you should do it over a normal licence test

    So this Saturday, me and a Mate went to take our CBT1 (learner to Restricted) with Rider Training.

    Initially I was skepticle as to whether the extra cost of doing the CBT would be worth it...

    Let me now assure you that it is worth every cent. And let me elaborate why:

    You can do the test on a Saturday - the NZTA only offer tests from 7-3 monday to friday, no weekends
    You are taking the test with an actual Motorcyclist who has ridden a bike for many year, as opposed to some Cager knob with a clip board who has never ridden in their life. I will elaborate more on this down below
    It is an awesome ride, Dawn took us around Ridge rd in Albany, and even though we were on our 250s and she was on her 1300 B King, it was still a good blast (at 80 kph) round some of those bends.
    You get to pick Dawn's Brains - it wasn't a ride with a robot/GPS system 'in 200 meters, turn right..... Do a U turn... Turn Left', we were talking about various things bike before, during and after the ride, even a few snide comments about Cagers doing typically cager things requiring us to take positive action
    Finally - You get tips on what you need to improve on, This IMO is really what makes the CBT the superior option for going from L-R and from R-F. Needless to say Me and my Mate have a few bad habits that we have picked up and Dawn talked to us about these, why they are bad habits, what we need to be practicing and how to avoid ending up as a statistic.

    Before the test as well we had a few questions - and as opposed to the typical Tester approach of 'I can't tell you, you need to drive legally and as you would normally' - Dawn was happy to clarify a few things as to what to expect:

    During the test - We hit some heavy traffic, now we had asked Dawn before the test about filtering - as the criteria in the CBT is a little vague as to whether you can filter during the test, She confirmed if the traffic was heavy, she would ask as to whether or not we were happy to filter (and of course if we were going to go filtering, we had to do it safely) needless to say, we went up the traffic and continued on with the test.

    We also got Dawn's expect judgement - I made a couple of really minor (but silly) errors mainly having a bit of fun round the last roundabout and after the test Dawn talked to me about it - she said that I can ride well and safely, my head checks were good, my control was good - she gave us a good telling off about the errors...

    So TL-DR - Taking your CBT with Dawn from Rider Training is worth every cent - good ride, good test, good company - and we both passed
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    sounds good, if I fail my restricted on thursday i'll book a CBT instead :|

    what are booking times like, there are months of waiting to sit L-R in south auckland -- had to book in penrose just to get it done before July ~_O

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    What is a CBT?

    IN the Uk the CBT is Compulsory Basic Training. You can't get a learners bike license without it.

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    @rapid it stands for Competency Based Training

    @demon Thanks for sharing your experience with CBT, I'm definitely going to go with that option for my full this year. Also had a cager with a clipboard giving GPS-like instructions for my restricted... what a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapid van cleef View Post
    What is a CBT?
    Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.

    Seriously.
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    It needs to be compulsory regardless of its name

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapid van cleef View Post
    What is a CBT?

    IN the Uk the CBT is Compulsory Basic Training. You can't get a learners bike license without it.
    Actually .. I think it's supposed to be CBTA.

    Competency Based Training and Assessment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maraudingkiwi View Post
    @rapid it stands for Competency Based Training

    @demon Thanks for sharing your experience with CBT, I'm definitely going to go with that option for my full this year. Also had a cager with a clipboard giving GPS-like instructions for my restricted... what a joke.
    The training course is to shorten your time on the learner/restricted license and be eligible to sit the restricted/full license sooner ... it is not a test to get the restricted/full license.

    You STILL need to go to the "Cager Noob with a clipboard" for that ...
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    Why do people still use the term 'Cager'? Does anyone say it in real life? Do they think it's cool?

    Never understood it... Those who say it probably drive cars too... Fuckin cagers.

    That rant now over, good on you for getting some additional training. It all helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    The training course is to shorten your time on the learner/restricted license and be eligible to sit the restricted/full license sooner ... it is not a test to get the restricted/full license.

    You STILL need to go to the "Cager Noob with a clipboard" for that ...
    Nope, you are wrong:

    From the NZTA Website:

    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett.../cbta.html?r=1

    And as someone who has done it, I did the CBT, went to the AA, picked up my restricted licence, no Cager noobs required.

    @Scubbo - Lead times where 1-2 weeks for my test,
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Nope, you are wrong:

    From the NZTA Website:

    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett.../cbta.html?r=1

    And as someone who has done it, I did the CBT, went to the AA, picked up my restricted licence, no Cager noobs required.
    Do the AA issue drivers licenses in Auckland ... ???

    And from your link.

    Once you’ve passed your assessment you’ll be issued with a Transport Agency motorcycle competency certificate for the appropriate CBTA course. Once you’ve held your learner/restricted licence for the minimum period (see CBTA infographic), you’ll be eligible to apply for your restricted/full licence. You’ll need to present this certificate to a driver licensing agent when you apply for the related licence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Do the AA issue drivers licenses in Auckland ... ???

    And from your link.

    Once you’ve passed your assessment you’ll be issued with a Transport Agency motorcycle competency certificate for the appropriate CBTA course. Once you’ve held your learner/restricted licence for the minimum period (see CBTA infographic), you’ll be eligible to apply for your restricted/full licence. You’ll need to present this certificate to a driver licensing agent when you apply for the related licence.
    The AA does driver licencing for anywhere:

    http://www.aa.co.nz/drivers/driver-licences/

    The Certificate negates the need to sit a practical test. The applying that the website is referring to is the Form which you have to fill in to get the licence, not the practical test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Nope, you are wrong:
    I stand corrected ... I assumed the "Clipboard" test was still required ...

    Do (will) you need to do another CBTA "Test"/course for your full license .. ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Nope, you are wrong:

    From the NZTA Website:

    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett.../cbta.html?r=1

    And as someone who has done it, I did the CBT, went to the AA, picked up my restricted licence, no Cager noobs required.

    @Scubbo - Lead times where 1-2 weeks for my test,
    That's correct did mine through ProRider lots to tips and assistance AA issued me a tempory restricted license till they post out the new one.

    You can book online for the CBTA http://www.prorider.co.nz/motorcycle...rse=35#booking

    Nearly took longer standing in the queue at the AA on Sunday Arvo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I stand corrected ... I assumed the "Clipboard" test was still required ...

    Do (will) you need to do another CBTA "Test"/course for your full license .. ??
    Yup - that is the CBT2
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