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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Now don't take this the wrong way - but it sounds to me like your 3 years of experience have not really been in figuring out how to ride your bike.
    Knowing its limits, knowing what causes what, seeing how it acts and reacts.

    This is all being part of a rider. You are there for the ride, so you really need to know what your bike is likely to do in situations. Don't be scared to find out what its limits are (which ironically have little to do with speed), in a safe environment.

    As someone eloquently put it too me in the past...
    "30 seconds in a skid pan overwrites 20 years worth on a highway".

    We are all learning - regardless of how long we have been riding.
    Total horse shit.
    The OP is not at fault here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    X2

    I've been to crashes where a 'nearly worn out back tyre' on a wet road was the culprit.
    Just as well you're not a detective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400sm View Post
    As you pointed out, it all back-tracks to the govt. You are an apologist for incompetence. Who is accountable then . . . . No one ,?
    Local body govt for roads.
    Nzta for motorways and highways.


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    Local body government is divorced from national government. Each council or other duly elected local body decides the standard of their roads within the framework of legislation provided by the government.

    Are you keeping up?

    Due to restructuring in the 80s an 90s the government department responsible on a national scale was slashed and pi in charge of only interjurisdicttional roadways. Each local body decides how to spend their money. Some councils do fundraising or own profitable businesses. Some subcontract some own road in companies.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 400sm View Post
    Total horse shit.
    The OP is not at fault here.
    Doesn't sound like blame to me. To me it sounds more like a veteran telling a less experienced rider to get used to the fact that the road is not perfect. That the tight mental attitude and the right knowledge can make his ride far safer and far more fun than ringing the council every 100 metres.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 400sm View Post
    Total horse shit.
    The OP is not at fault here.
    There is no fault here princess. Only ways we move forward with a better plan on not dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Just as well you're not a detective.

    Don't be pedantic - it demeans you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    Local body govt for Provincial roads.
    Nzta for motorways and State highways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    There .. fixed it for you ..
    Thanks. I knew what I meant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Now don't take this the wrong way - but it sounds to me like your 3 years of experience have not really been in figuring out how to ride your bike.
    Knowing its limits, knowing what causes what, seeing how it acts and reacts.

    This is all being part of a rider. You are there for the ride, so you really need to know what your bike is likely to do in situations. Don't be scared to find out what its limits are (which ironically have little to do with speed), in a safe environment.

    As someone eloquently put it too me in the past...
    "30 seconds in a skid pan overwrites 20 years worth on a highway".

    We are all learning - regardless of how long we have been riding.
    Maybe a small jot of truth...but on a race track you're in a heightened state of awareness, knowingly pushing your bike to the limit. Cruising along the open road on a nice straight piece of road for that matter, you're much less likely to be expecting the rear to let go. That said, where the track like experience comes in, is that even of caught off-guard, it is much less likely to scare the shit out of you and you're more likely to react appropriately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Maybe a small jot of truth...but on a race track you're in a heightened state of awareness, knowingly pushing your bike to the limit. Cruising along the open road on a nice straight piece of road for that matter, you're much less likely to be expecting the rear to let go. That said, where the track like experience comes in, is that even of caught off-guard, it is much less likely to scare the shit out of you and you're more likely to react appropriately.
    And on your racetrack you don't need to keep up that level of concentration for several hours in changing scenery/roads/conditions.
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    yer tire slid around a wee bit on yer did it.... thats a real shame..

    I remeber when the tyres were so crappy yer exspected that 1/2 doz times every time yer
    thow a leg over a bike... the dirt/adv tyres these days grip better on the seal than some of the road tyres
    we use to have..
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    There is no fault here princess. Only ways we move forward with a better plan on not dying.

    When you get a big boy bike, you might learn some big boy lessons.

    betcha ive had bigger bikes than you, girlie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    Doesn't sound like blame to me. To me it sounds more like a veteran telling a less experienced rider to get used to the fact that the road is not perfect. That the tight mental attitude and the right knowledge can make his ride far safer and far more fun than ringing the council every 100 metres.


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    Im a veteran.
    he is just patronising the op.
    op has at least 3 years experience.
    thats heaps.

    his experience seems to be 6500 posts on kb, which makes him only half as right as those with 13,000...

    So, in your opinion, dont fix roads, send everyone to rider school to learn that some roads is bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400sm View Post



    Im a veteran.
    he is just patronising the op.
    op has at least 3 years experience.
    thats heaps.

    his experience seems to be 6500 posts on kb, which makes him only half as right as those with 13,000...

    So, in your opinion, dont fix roads, send everyone to rider school to learn that some roads is bad...
    No, in my opinion if your going to wait at home for the perfect weather and perfect roads you won't get much experience over 20 years. You might have a mighty high post count though.
    Years licensed and post count don't mean shit compare to kms ridden and survived.

    What I mean is if there is a particular safety hazard report it, but FFS if you encounter a new hazard you don't know how to deal with, learn.

    Life is not a dress rehearsal, work out what you need to learn to have fun in any weather on any road.


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