More evidence for raising speed limits

[FJRider]

Maybe we could have Muppet Crashing Zone signs so muppets know where to crash.

And the rest of us can steer well clear of those areas!

The muppets crash in areas nobody expects ... they don't even know they're muppets ...

[rastuscat]

http://kraphtyforkaptions.blogspot.c...crash-too.html

[Edbear]

The muppets crash in areas nobody expects ... they don't even know they're muppets ...

Show me someone who knows they are an incompetent driver and I will show you a passenger. ..

[BoristheBiter]

In all practical ways the difference between 5kph and 0kph is insignificant at all but an infinitesimal number of stop signs.

OK so get someone to drive into you at 5kph and then try and get them to hit you at 0kph.

See with one you prefer.

[kiwi cowboy]

Maybe we could have Muppet Crashing Zone signs so muppets know where to crash.

And the rest of us can steer well clear of those areas!

Yes please and can you make one just outside my wee block of land just north of dunners.

I have been thinking how I can get a living off it and a car wrecking yard with a steady supply of vehicles at the front gate would be good

[FJRider]

Maybe we could have Muppet Crashing Zone signs so muppets know where to crash.

And the rest of us can steer well clear of those areas!

They DO ... they're called Black Spots ... and signed as such.

[swbarnett]

OK so get someone to drive into you at 5kph and then try and get them to hit you at 0kph.

See with one you prefer.

That is completely out of context and you know it.

[BoristheBiter]

That is completely out of context and you know it.

No it isn't. You said the difference is negligible I'm saying prove it.

If someone is moving and accelerates out of a stop/give way sign they will be further out into the road then if they come to a compete stop and that could be the difference between going around them or over them.

[Big Dog]

Show me someone who knows they are an incompetent driver and I will show you a passenger. ..

Unless you think you are incompetent but less incompetent than most.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

OK so get someone to drive into you at 5kph and then try and get them to hit you at 0kph.

See with one you prefer.

By definition if at 0kph they are not able to hit you.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[BoristheBiter]

By definition if at 0kph they are not able to hit you.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

That was the point.

[MD]

I've read none of this thread but I have to ask. Is there a speed limit? Well my bikes have never heard of this strange restriction.

[scumdog]

I've read none of this thread but I have to ask. Is there a speed limit? Well my bikes have never heard of this strange restriction.

Oh no bike has - but the laws of physics and one or two cops certainly have.

[swbarnett]

No it isn't. You said the difference is negligible I'm saying prove it.

God you can be thick sometimes. I am saying that an observation made at 5kph is the same (or as close to as makes no odds) as an observation made at 0kph in the same amount of time.

If someone is moving and accelerates out of a stop/give way sign they will be further out into the road then if they come to a compete stop and that could be the difference between going around them or over them.

Quite right. However, totally out of the context of what I said. My whole argument revolves around the need for driver to OBSERVE the other traffic. Now, if you want to argue that those 5kph make a difference given the same observational outcome then I actually agree with you. But this is a different point and irrelevant to the discussion because the purpose of replacing a give way sign with a stop sign is not to slow them down once they make the decision to proceed. It is to make people slow down enough to be sure that it is safe to proceed in the first place. I still maintain that 5kph is slow enough at all but a miniscule number of intersections.

[swbarnett]

OK so get someone to drive into you at 5kph and then try and get them to hit you at 0kph.

See with one you prefer.

Actually I just remembered that I have been hit by someone travelling at 5kph or thereabouts. It may as well not have happened for the damage it did i.e. absolutely none. All they got from me was a slight sneer. It didn't even warrant a shake of the head.