Road Bike Stunts

[larriken]

Anyone can pop a wheelie, so its not really considered a stunt.

Still, you have to learn the basics before doing the fancy stuff. So you need to work out the saftey procedure, and basic skills.

Yes, you need to wear the saftey kit (basically MX kit is what i'd call a minimum because its designed to take that sort of bashing), and you need a special bike - although for learning I suggest a dirt bike or old dunger that can be bent a busted).

The hardest of all the stunts to do is the most basic one you need to learn before all others. Basically, balance on the bike without moving it or putting your feet down for about 2 mins. If you cant master that simple one, dont bother with the rest because they are pretty much all built on it.

If you are really serious on stunting then basically the technical name for the sport is called 'motorcycle trials'. You'll note the specially designed bikes. All the tricks done by the sports bike dudes on the videos are just basic skills for trials riders (any trials rider will tell you that) - they just make it look showy and impressive for the punters.

There is also no speed involved in stunting - just in case you thought there was - 99% of the tricks involve either a stationary bike or moving about 10mph. Its one of the reasons why no-one uses road bikes (even the guys you see at race tracks use specially designed bikes).

Remember its safety, safety, safety, technique.

However, if all you want to do is tricks on a road bike, then tender yourself to the prat on wheels club, because thats all those people are.

Just my opinion.

Sorry to butt in, but mate..............c'mon.

A.) Trials riding is not stunt riding, but a trials rider can perform as a stunt rider. If you want to be pedantic about it.

B.) Stunt riding using modern road bikes is becoming huge in the States, Europe. Just cos it's not here in a big way doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

C.) Specially designed bikes? If you feel that way inclined, but for road bike stunting.........mate, I have mates that get paid to put on stunt riding shows using bog stock road bikes! Nothing specially designed about that.

D.) Unfortunately, I think you really just missed the point of what was being asked. Oh well, I'm going back to my prat on wheels club meeting!

[DEATH_INC.]

First,Affman you need to drop the gearing,go up 3 or 4 on the rear at least(or down 1 on the front if you can find one)those srad 600's are pretty tall geared. I've done 'em on bart's 600....you wanna be going about 110-120 then pull the clutch and redline it,give her a tug on the front as you drop the clutch and she'll come up no probs.But if you drop the gearing it'll be much easier.
2seven,trials is a completely different kettle of fish.Not even slightly the same.
Kittyhawk,come for a ride with Myself and Loosebruce,we'll teach you what we can,it's much easier to do face to face.(away from all the bleaters here)
And road bikes do jump OK,I usta love getting some fairly big air off the railcrossing in new lynn (portage rd?)...

[TwoSeven]

Sorry to butt in, but mate..............c'mon.

A.) Trials riding is not stunt riding, but a trials rider can perform as a stunt rider. If you want to be pedantic about it.

B.) Stunt riding using modern road bikes is becoming huge in the States, Europe. Just cos it's not here in a big way doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

C.) Specially designed bikes? If you feel that way inclined, but for road bike stunting.........mate, I have mates that get paid to put on stunt riding shows using bog stock road bikes! Nothing specially designed about that.

D.) Unfortunately, I think you really just missed the point of what was being asked. Oh well, I'm going back to my prat on wheels club meeting!

What you describe has the technical name 'show boating'. Its not stunts. Evil Knievel did stunts, dave osbourne did stunts. A tard on a bike pulling wheelies, stoppies, or hanging off the back is showboating.

[Storm]

And these "tards" have more than likely paid thier crashing dues just as much as Evil and Dave did. Just because its not your thing, dont dump all over it

[Kittyhawk]

That's cool I'd like to learn while on the wheels. It's probably eaiser that way but reading everyone's opinions show how many different gearing and weight shift styles there are. I guess it comes down to personal prefrence for which bike and what's easiest or most comfortable for that particular bike.

[Phenoix]

All this talk has gotten me interested now.
You've talked bout doing wheelies on 600's
But what are the chance of doing it on a ZXR250, lots of weight, not much power.
Would be interesting to know which one its easier on

[aff-man]

First,Affman you need to drop the gearing,go up 3 or 4 on the rear at least(or down 1 on the front if you can find one)those srad 600's are pretty tall geared. I've done 'em on bart's 600....you wanna be going about 110-120 then pull the clutch and redline it,give her a tug on the front as you drop the clutch and she'll come up no probs.But if you drop the gearing it'll be much easier.
2seven,trials is a completely different kettle of fish.Not even slightly the same.
Kittyhawk,come for a ride with Myself and Loosebruce,we'll teach you what we can,it's much easier to do face to face.(away from all the bleaters here)
And road bikes do jump OK,I usta love getting some fairly big air off the railcrossing in new lynn (portage rd?)...

Sweet i'll see what i can get. Can i come along too??

[Mattyc]

Buy a motocross bike and try it out on that first it will be less expensive.

Thats about the most logical thing, i learnt stoppies a few years ago on mountain bike, then i went to my KTM sx250, i have them fairly down pat after a couple of years, but i want to put some kms on the zx9r before i do them on it.

Just the other weekend i was riding my Mrs's Cr80bw and managed to go right over, what Sarge is saying is spot on - LEARN HOW TO FALL, i normally come off stoppies to the side, the bike normally goes right over forwards

Also this probably doesn't have to be said but some crash knobs would come in real handy when trying anything like stoppies..

[larriken]

What you describe has the technical name 'show boating'. Its not stunts. Evil Knievel did stunts, dave osbourne did stunts. A tard on a bike pulling wheelies, stoppies, or hanging off the back is showboating.

Bwahahaha. I'm pretty certain that even ol' Evil himself would say that he's showboating! Isn't that the whole point? To be honest, I'm pretty certain that you have no idea what modern day stunting is all about. One thing for certain though, the top guys like A.C Farius etc are far more technical riders than Dave Osbourne. Stop being so narrow minded and check it out, you might be surprised!

Mark from MotoPsychos in the photo.

[DEATH_INC.]

All this talk has gotten me interested now.
You've talked bout doing wheelies on 600's
But what are the chance of doing it on a ZXR250, lots of weight, not much power.
Would be interesting to know which one its easier on

Much easier to wheelie on a 6hundy,just cause it comes up easy and you got time to settle it,a zxr250 can do it(at least bruces can )but you gotta get it right straight off the ground.Stoppies and stuff though are about the same,though it's easier to bail off the 250.
If you're not sure of yourself get/make a crashcage,it'll save the sides of the bike a fair bit(at lower speeds anyhoo),and a 12 bar may help if you go right over.
Good gear is a necessity,knee armour,good gloves (ask bruce)and elbow armour and shoulder armour at least.Go for hard armour too,forget all the crap you hear about memory armour,the hard stuff is what you need.Full mx protectors would be good as it's impact you're protecting against more than anything.A back protector can't hurt,though you rarely fall on yer back doing wheelies/stoppies.

[DEATH_INC.]

Buy a motocross bike and try it out on that first it will be less expensive.

I'm not so sure about this ,sprotbikes are so different to ride that most of my mx experience actually works against me on the gixx.You have to learn all over again and I think a 600+ sprotbike is actually easier.....

[texmo]

I can pull a wheelie on a 70cc auto scooter with ease, so you must be able to do it on a zxr250

[loosebruce]

And road bikes do jump OK,I usta love getting some fairly big air off the railcrossing in new lynn (portage rd?)...

Fuck yea thats a cool jump, oh the pain when you get it wrong and your manhood meets the tank, shed a few tears in my helmet after that one.

Nice pic larriken, i've got so many vids from the guys in the states, just plain amzing stuff, showboating, who said that, fuck off thats some serious skill, check the rear sprocket out, got to get me one of those for the thousand, and the pressure in the rear tyre, some thought goes into set up on these bikes, got to keep practicing myself.

[larriken]

Fuck yea thats a cool jump, oh the pain when you get it wrong and your manhood meets the tank, shed a few tears in my helmet after that one.

Nice pic larriken, i've got so many vids from the guys in the states, just plain amzing stuff, showboating, who said that, fuck off thats some serious skill, check the rear sprocket out, got to get me one of those for the thousand, and the pressure in the rear tyre, some thought goes into set up on these bikes, got to keep practicing myself.

Hehe, here's the sprocket I've got on my Blade. It's also one down on the front.

[loosebruce]

Hehe, here's the sprocket I've got on my Blade. It's also one down on the front.

Nice one man, cant even imagine the differnce it would make to a bike, must try it me thinks.