At least someone's making the effort

**cheshirecat** · 13th May 2014, 21:40

And still cheaper than a lost life or injury

http://www.fema-online.eu/index.php?...t01returnid=15

**400sm** · 13th May 2014, 22:02

Now that's responsible GOVERNMENT, eh chaps !!! ;-))

**yevjenko** · 13th May 2014, 22:15

Pvc tubes... That would cost bugger all to fit. What a great idea.

sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)

**avgas** · 14th May 2014, 05:07

While I like the concept, I wonder what the cost is.

**Erelyes** · 14th May 2014, 07:30

Originally Posted by avgas

While I like the concept, I wonder what the cost is.

I imagine you'd have to replace the tubes whenever they were hit. (By bike or car).

Most car drivers who bash into it, are able to drive away again quite happily... thus leaving the gummint to foot the bill of fixing it.

In saying all that, It's a great idea though.

**yevjenko** · 14th May 2014, 08:33

Originally Posted by Erelyes

I imagine you'd have to replace the tubes whenever they were hit. (By bike or car).

But they needed to do that with the metal armco anyway

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**avgas** · 14th May 2014, 08:57

Originally Posted by yevjenko

But they needed to do that with the metal armco anyway

Actually they take quite a pounding.
Seen more than the odd car park into one, and the barrier just compressed a little.

**MSTRS:Me** · 14th May 2014, 09:04

This is a variation on a French product called Moto-tub, which has been in use for years. It covers the posts, which are the dangerous part of Armco for riders.
But not in NZ.
Oh no, says Min of Transport, we have to do tests and evaluate, and then run a trial etc before installing, and of course it will alter the properties of the barrier likely causing cars to flip over the top. WTF??
This was the response I recd from Harry Duynhoven (Labour minister Transport) AND Steven Joyce (National minister Transport). How odd that both would say exactly the same thing. One could be forgiven for thinking that no Govt is interested in the safety of riders.

**Erelyes** · 14th May 2014, 10:12

Originally Posted by MSTRS

This is a variation on a French product called Moto-tub, which has been in use for years. It covers the posts, which are the dangerous part of Armco for riders.
But not in NZ.
Oh no, says Min of Transport, we have to do tests and evaluate, and then run a trial etc before installing, and of course it will alter the properties of the barrier likely causing cars to flip over the top. WTF??
This was the response I recd from Harry Duynhoven (Labour minister Transport) AND Steven Joyce (National minister Transport). How odd that both would say exactly the same thing. One could be forgiven for thinking that no Govt is interested in the safety of riders.

I wonder if there are any politicians that ride?

**yevjenko** · 14th May 2014, 10:44

Originally Posted by MSTRS

This is a variation on a French product called Moto-tub, which has been in use for years. It covers the posts, which are the dangerous part of Armco for riders.
But not in NZ.
Oh no, says Min of Transport, we have to do tests and evaluate, and then run a trial etc before installing, and of course it will alter the properties of the barrier likely causing cars to flip over the top. WTF??
This was the response I recd from Harry Duynhoven (Labour minister Transport) AND Steven Joyce (National minister Transport). How odd that both would say exactly the same thing. One could be forgiven for thinking that no Govt is interested in the safety of riders.

Surely they can evaluate based on the experiences of the French and Norwegian ministries of transport???

i know i know there i go again raising the issue of common sense and ministries

**MIXONE** · 14th May 2014, 11:16

Originally Posted by Erelyes

I wonder if there are any politicians that ride?

John Banks owns a Harley.
Doesn't mean that he rides though...

**MSTRS:Me** · 14th May 2014, 17:33

Originally Posted by Erelyes

I wonder if there are any politicians that ride?

Don't waste your time. 'We' went over all this in 2007 over the backlash to Daniel Evans's death on the cheesecutter near Papakura. And then again in 2009 over the bullshit ACC changes/increases.
Listen up - successive governments are not interested in motorcyclists and their 'issues'.

Originally Posted by yevjenko

Surely they can evaluate based on the experiences of the French and Norwegian ministries of transport???

i know i know there i go again raising the issue of common sense and ministries

Common sense and government/s have never been easy bedfellows...

Originally Posted by MIXONE

John Banks owns a Harley.
Doesn't mean that he rides though...

See first comment.

**BoristheBiter** · 14th May 2014, 17:44

This part made me giggle.

"Like all grown up motorcyclists Even Elseth was wearing full riding gear."

**awa355** · 14th May 2014, 17:54

Originally Posted by yevjenko

Surely they can evaluate based on the experiences of the French and Norwegian ministries of transport???

i know i know there i go again raising the issue of common sense and ministries

I do remember Helen Clarke responding to a question about road safety initiatives from Germany. " Well that's a German response to a German problem ".

Didn't stop her and every other politician trappsing off to anywhere in the world to attend a conference on anything, whether it was relevant to NZ or not.

The PVC tubing sounds okay, but how long before ' Joe fly by night plumbers' decides he would have a better use for the stuff.