No cut in motorcycle ACC levies

[yevjenko]

If all bike riders currently not paying registration, when they should be, (not bikes on hold etc), were to pay their registration would the ACC fund be increased to a level that there could be a reduction in ACC levies charged?

Probably not. The normal state affairs is to invest surplus



sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)

[Akzle]

And for those people saying user pays, how does something like a klr650 without the power to pull the skin off a rice pudding use more acc claim funds than an cbr600rr?

on my many and varied visits to medical facilities, i have never, NEVER seen a motorcycle in one.
so, who uses more ACC, people with big brass ones? or lawbiding n00bs on a 250?

which brings me squarely to the point of 'disincentive' tax on cigarettes... i've never seen a motorcycle smoke a cigarette, nor have i seen a cigarette ride a motorcycle, phucken gews.

[bogan]

Well your logic has me totally confused. This must rate as one of your dumber posts!!

Car drivers being fined more would decrease ACC levies how?? Oh we put the fines into the ACC fund - brilliant!!

I restate my question in BASIC terms so you can understand. If all bike riders currently not paying registration, when they should be, (not bikes on hold etc), were to pay their registration would the ACC fund be increased to a level that there could be a reduction in ACC levies charged?

Nah, cos it is not related to separate funds. They added a risk factor ages ago to make bikes more than cars by said factor, then were like oh well we'll actually just be 'nice' and not charge that much after all. So now that they are lowering car costs, they are still 'justified' not lowering bike costs because we already pay less than they think we should be.

Your post is just as dumb because if that was the case the reason for the announced drop in registration for cars would be because of more people now registering their cars when the truth would be more likely a drop in expensive accident claims or the National Party wanting to get votes.

Don't be fucking stupid (may be a difficult ask I know). His post was perfectly reasonable, the drop in car rego is because full funding is coming in at a decent rate, might be coincidence that it is occuring this year (almost certainly isn't) but it is dropped because the MVA has less 'shortfall' now than it did a year or two ago, and less shortfall means they can charge less.

[bogan]

Don't be so fucken stupid yourself based on your belief they are cutting reg for cars due to the much greater volume of them being registered each year and not so many bikes being registered. So there will always be more ACC money coming from car owners than bike owners Lets hope gas goes up high enough then to get a big enough number of people getting bikes so registration for bike owners goes down then by you and the other posters theory then eh. I think for you and him to get what I am on about you would need to have an accident where the car driver is at fault and then you would understand the unjust imbalance in fees and bike riders nearly always come off far worse than car drivers when they hit us.

Wat? of course there will be more cars and more money from cars, there are also more car payouts you douche-canoe.

[bogan]

The pay out per car v car accident would be far less in most cases compared to bikes and this would be their logic for making bikes pay more. How they consider a diesel 4WD just as dangerous in an accident as a big bike is a mystery but maybe like bikes they have to pay more as there is not so many on the road as petrol cars and 4WDs.

Actually it was about the same on average. That is not their logic for making bikes pay more. As I've already said, their logic is based on a calculated risk factor, not on new vehicle regos or whatever the fuck you're babbling on about.

[bogan]

It was the other poster that you agreed with that felt registration would be lower if more people owned registerable bikes and it goes to reason that if fewer people owned cars car registration would go up based on his logic does it not?

That was a quite reasonable question he asked, to which I answered (in disagreement btw, you illiterate fucksickle) since you decided it was a dumb question. You read too much into other people's logic for someone with such a loose grasp of the concept yourself. I mean logically you could also say if fewer people owned cars there would be fewer accidents too

[Katman]

.....nor have i seen a cigarette ride a motorcycle.....

What about a fag on a Honda?

[thepom]

fag on a Honda.......ha ha that's good.....god I,m laughing my head off ......also wish I had not started the post cos its turned into a bitch fight...

[caspernz]

What about a fag on a Honda?

At least he'd be out riding, instead of waging a war of words like many tin soldiers on here...