Forum whore
It's really simple folks.
Election year so offerings of more family entitlements, medical funding etc etc....
Now where do they get the coin from? Start digging into loads of pocket groups that could be taxed more without a public outcry.
I am how going to make myself a tinfoil hat so they cannot read my mind.
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Nissan GTR 1990-2008 band 2
Nissan Skyline 1978-2010 band 1
Ok.....
Subaru Outback 1999-2008 band 4
Subaru Outback 2009-curr. band 1
Ok....
Volkswagen Polo 1984-1993 band 1
Volkswagen Polo 1994-1998 band 4
Volkswagen Polo 1999-2008 band 2
Volkswagen Polo 2009-curr. band 1
Ok...
I get that 'newer=/= safer' but this is fucking ridiculous.
Ah well, our family car is Band 4, so I ain't complaining.
And what the fuck is a Nissan Sedan.
Bogeyman
What's fucking ridiculous is double the price for "non petrol" vehicles from a policy that claims to be apportioning costs according to risk.
Fucking what?
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Quote Jan 2020 Posted by Katman
Life would be so much easier if you addressed questions with a simple answer.
Bored Room
Originally Posted by Murray
Whens it on, the Norton and the old guys at the Vintage Car Club have they're mobility scooter batteries charged up and ready to go
DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.
Hardcore Biker
That is because some of the ACC levy is built into fuel price (hence the 4c a litre lowering) but diesel fuel has no ACC component so all is paid on the levy.
The risk rating system for cars is well intended, but full of anomalies. Designed by officials, need I say any more...
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Bogeyman
It's paid for through road user charges. Why should my work van licence cost twice as much as an identical petrol powered item?
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Forum whore
Raised exactly this point with an ACC manager on Monday.
Response was that RUC still doesn't totally cover the disparity.
Sounded like an excuse to me but it may be right.
Hardcore Biker
RUC does not include any allowance for ACC levies. None.
See this tool on the MoT website that explains the differences... http://www.transport.govt.nz/ourwork...rol-vs-diesel/
Click on the petrol versus diesel charges calculator. You will see for petrol vehicles there are two ACC charges, some from fuel and some from a straight annual charge. For diesel it is all annual charge and no fuel.
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Bogeyman
Well that's OK then, there's no inherently inequitable ACC related costs built into the RUC charges.
They're massively inequitable road cost related, charging my 1300cc diesel Fiat Panda the same as a 30 Ton semi.
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Hardcore Biker
Now that I agree with...
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Embracing mediocrity
Slightly incorrect, 30 ton semi no, 3.5 ton toyota landcruiser yes. Your point still stands though, and is a big part of the reason why people don't drive diesel cars in this country, when the road user charge cost is the same as the diesel cost for a ford fiesta it's got a bit silly
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Hardcore Biker
You aint half kidding the ACC banding is ridiculous. I've been through the list from end to end and the number of anomalies is just about more than the ones that make sense. Their methodology on the face of it looks OK, but the results are crap, so that has led me to conclude their methodology is crap. Two reasons for this I've identified so far are:
- it assumes NZ and Australian cars are built to the same spec at the model level. This is not true. The model is made up of lots of sub models and in Australia their are many more sub-models de-spec'd compared to NZ.
- newer cars are also involved in a lot less crashes so their crash data is limited and that is screwing the results.
More will be ehard on this, you can bet your bottom dollar the NZ distributors of new vehicles don't like the results of the banding and they will ensure ACC understand that!
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Bogeyman
Good luck to 'em, if the "clients" actually paying for the "service" can't move them from an entrenched ideological policy then I can't see a completely non-contributing but commercially interested entity engendering much in the way of "understanding".
And my that's a lot of ".
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