letter from the police

**scooterboynz** · 6th September 2005, 22:31

hi there every one, a "friend" of mine recieved a letter today, from the helensville police, saying that my "friend" involved in speeding along state highway 16 , it says he was involved in an "estimated" 130kph, it says he must supply details of who was riding the bike at the time that the alledged offence happened.
is ths letter taking the piss? or is it just scare tactics? some one my "friend" overtook and possibly annoyed and rang *555 ??????
advice please

**bugjuice** · 6th September 2005, 22:38

i think by 'privacy act', they can ask, but can't demand. But by the same token, they can put the responsibility square on the 'owner' if they don't front up with the name. That's the few cases I've heard about overseas, not sure how that'd gel here. And they don't just 'scare' at random. Someone probably got a stick up their arse about summat, and that's the best they could do.. I'd say get 'legal' advice, but not sure how that'd work out. I'm sure you'll get a few pm's of help or advice.. else bite a bullet and say 'so..'..
130 could be argued at 120, and 20 over isn't too bad, to save a heap of grief. Especially since they have no solid proof of speed. this 'mate' could have been doin a hundy, and passed a car doing 70, 80.. difference in speed is the same, but they got an arseache over it..

i'll shut up now, and fill in the hole I'm diggin..

**cowboyz** · 6th September 2005, 22:39

I would send them a very polite letter back explaining that you have no recollection of the incident but ti is concievable that you were in fact on the road at that time but it is inconcievable that you would be travelling that quickly. They can't do anything about it unless they have got an exact lock on what the bike was doing at the time. "estimated" is not good enough.

Or just ignore it completely.

**scooterboynz** · 6th September 2005, 22:41

it even says in my "friends " letter he must supply information about the "driver" of the "car" well if they cant even get it correct that is was a bike! and a rider! then how could they possibly get the speed correct!

**Skyryder** · 6th September 2005, 22:42

Originally Posted by scooterboynz

hi there every one, a "friend" of mine recieved a letter today, from the helensville police, saying that my "friend" involved in speeding along state highway 16 , it says he was involved in an "estimated" 130kph, it says he must supply details of who was riding the bike at the time that the alledged offence happened.
is ths letter taking the piss? or is it just scare tactics? some one my "friend" overtook and possibly annoyed and rang *555 ??????
advice please

Sounds a bit sus to me. If it's a speeding ticket the Police simply issue to reg. owner. Estimated................ ???. No photograph................There are rules and regulations how police estimate speed. Wonder why 'your friend' wasn't pulled over and issued a ticket.

Skyryder

**zeRax** · 6th September 2005, 22:43

^ everything that cowboyz said

**bugjuice** · 6th September 2005, 22:44

well, you can just say that the letter holds no merit at all, since you don't own a car of the registration (and they'd know that, if they bloody checked what they send!), and again, since the speed is estimated, no solid evidence. It'd purely be a 'voluntary' surrender of information to the law, since they obviously have very little to go on.

**scooterboynz** · 6th September 2005, 22:45

oh one important thing i forgot to mention , it turned up to my "friends" letter box in a plain brown envelope with just his name and address , no stamp , no nothing! are the police so quiet with nothing to do that they can personally deliver letters from a police station over 40k's away ?

**bugjuice** · 6th September 2005, 22:46

was it even on letter-headed paper?
I don't think it comes in marked envelopes any more, since it can easily be 'discarded' before opening. Hand delivered tho.... someone pulling a leg here?

**scooterboynz** · 6th September 2005, 22:47

the letter inside has no official letter head , well no proffesional looking one , looks like is got spat out of a cheap nasty bubble jet printer ,,, so it probably was from helensville station then!

**bugjuice** · 6th September 2005, 22:49

someone's tuggin ya then.. if it's not official, then probably isn't.. does it even have a case/ref number?

**scooterboynz** · 6th September 2005, 22:52

Originally Posted by bugjuice

someone's tuggin ya then.. if it's not official, then probably isn't.. does it even have a case/ref number?

funny you should mention that , no it doesnt have any case number , any file number nothing ,,,, if i had a scanner i would post it up on here !
the police logo on the top of the letter looks like it was drawn by a two year old!
it says failure to comply with letter a fine of no more than $10,000 or loss of licence for a period that the court thinks fit!

**bugjuice** · 6th September 2005, 22:54

there's your answer then.
could even go as far as getting Hitcher to check the grammar! I bet that's a bit out too..

**scooterboynz** · 6th September 2005, 22:58

it happenend the day i think i saw you? we turned off onto woodcocks road towards warkworth , then headed up to wellsford then back down 16 and home , it says it happened at a place called "mangakura" which i think is the little place by the bridge with the little boat ramp and the blind hump of a dodgy hill