Bright cycle lights?

[rastuscat]

So does that mean we can get pissed to bits and still legally ride a pushy on the road? Not that I'd do that mind

Yes actually. Just don't get locked up for disorderly behaviour.

[caspernz]

Okay folks, seems it is an issue.

Now, wtf can I do about it?

Whatever the letter of the law suggests.

As a night time trucker I find the strobing lights a nuisance, makes it hard to tell distance for starters. On the whole it's a non-issue to me, for when I feel suitably aggrieved I've got lots more lights and a set of air horns to signal my temporary insanity brought on by a multitude of strobing lights...just kidding haha.

It's probably the mis-application, or illegal use I should say, of lights that's the most annoying. An example being a cyclist with four white forward lights coming towards me whilst riding on the left hand side of the road. But then on the whole I find a cyclist with no lights or reflective gear is more of a hazard to my safe passage than one who has gone overboard at the $2 shop and fitted enough lights to qualify as a Fulton Hogan beacon truck.

So yeah, my recollection of the road code was one rearward facing red light and one white forward light for a push bike. And of course the road code predates the invention of cheaply available LED lights...perhaps you could rewrite it Pete?

[nodrog:Me]

You're honestly a fuckwit of the highest level. Not everyone is rich enough to afford motorized transport every where.

Maybe they should try driving to work.

[swarfie]

Yes actually. Just don't get locked up for disorderly behaviour.

Maybe the law should be changed in this instance then. I don't think anyone should be on the road pissed...walking, driving, riding or cycling. Can't believe the law actually allows it.
As for the lights issue I think there should be only one on the front and back. Strobing is ok at the back but not the front IMO. The depth perception thing is a problem, especially with really bright front strobing lights but not so much with a red at the rear.

[neels]

I've got a couple of 900 lumen led lights for cycling, off road helmet mounted, on road bar mounted so I can see the broken glass and other crap before I run over it.

I can't see a reason for using a helmet mounted light in traffic, and I don't know how anyone can use the flashing mode at night without their eyeballs exploding.

Anyway, seems from the nzta website flashing lights are allowed, ones that dazzle other road users are not, they are a real pain in the arse so police away.......

When cycling at night or when visibility is poor, cycles must have the following:

C.One or more steady or flashing rear-facing red lights that can be seen at night from a distance of 100 metres.
D.One or two white or yellow headlights that can be seen at night from a distance of 100 metres. Only one of these headlights may flash.
E.Pedal retroreflectors on the forward and rearward facing surfaces of each pedal. If the cycle does not have these, you must wear reflective material.
Cycle lights
There are many cycle lights on the market – some are designed to help cyclists be seen by other road users during times of low light, and some lights are designed to help cyclists see where they are going, like a headlight.

When considering lights it is important to be mindful that:

•Headlights should be attached to handlebars and pointing down.
•Your lights can be a hazard if used incorrectly. You must not use cycle lighting equipment in such a way that it dazzles, confuses, or distracts so as to endanger the safety of other road users.

[cynna]

Last Friday my wife was driving my daughters car and hit a girl cyclist who didn't have any lights on her bike. The silly bovine had dark clothing on and there were no street lights. Thank Christ she was okay, with only minimal damage to the cage. I ride a pushy to work, mostly in the dark (I start work @ 6.30am) and IMO pushy lights can't be bright enough. Having said that some of them can be a bit piercing though

More tickets for those that don't have lights please.

more tickets for blind drivers too please

[Paul in NZ]

Awesome - you can order 9800 lumen units now.... Feck...

[Big Dog]

Okay folks, seems it is an issue.

Now, wtf can I do about it?

Snipers.



Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[ellipsis]

Snipers.



Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

...with the luck that some of these lycraknobs seem to have, the only things that would be hit, would be cows or children or cassina, following closely behind...

[Yow Ling]

Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004

8.3
Use of motor vehicle lighting equipment on road
(1)
A person must not use vehicle lighting equipment in such a way that it dazzles, confuses, or distracts so as to endanger the safety of other road users.

So, that's what the law is. I wonder how it'll go down when we start writing $150 tickets for it.

Wouldn't that be revenue collecting?

Troll.

naa revenue collecting is when you give me a ticket

[Asher]

I have actually noticed this a few times of the last couple of weeks.
The typical culprits are those with bright helmet mounted lights, all you can see is a cornea burning light that you cant judge speed or distance off.
If they mounted them on their handle bars and aimed them lower they would be much easier to see.

[Reckless]

•Headlights should be attached to handlebars and pointing down.

There it is! anything else gets a ticket.
The crux of the matter is Helmet mounted lights can be shone into the eyes of another motorist just by looking to see where the opposing traffic is going. Illegal and dangerous!
Isn't not dipping your headlights an offence surely shining them into someones face is?

If they are as above legal, Helmet mounted illegal, simple.
Maybe handlebar mounted but not adjusted correctly a nice chat?
done next Donut

Edit: Or a chat for all of the above seeing as they prob would be unknowing of the law at that time.

[Big Dog]

Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004

8.3
Use of motor vehicle lighting equipment on road
(1)
A person must not use vehicle lighting equipment in such a way that it dazzles, confuses, or distracts so as to endanger the safety of other road users.

So, that's what the law is. I wonder how it'll go down when we start writing $150 tickets for it.

Wouldn't that be revenue collecting?

Troll.

No, that is good police work.
Headlamp dazzling driver has to be at least as dangerous as 4km over on her majesties birthday.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

...with the luck that some of these lycraknobs seem to have, the only things that would be hit, would be cows or children or cassina, following closely behind...

So start the program with paintball guns until the snipers get their eye in and can deliver the "good news" effectively. I suspect
People would learn bright smart if transgressions of this calibre attracted snipers.
You know, red light runners, cell phone uses and other miscreants that put other peoples lives in danger for their own convenience.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

There it is! anything else gets a ticket.
The crux of the matter is Helmet mounted lights can be shone into the eyes of another motorist just by looking to see where the opposing traffic is going. Illegal and dangerous!
Isn't not dipping your headlights an offence surely shining them into someones face is?

If they are as above legal, Helmet mounted illegal, simple.
Maybe handlebar mounted but not adjusted correctly a nice chat?
done next Donut

The legislation seems clear around bicycle mounting but is there actually anything against helmet mount specifically? Or not affixed to the vehicle less explicitly?

An ex got pulled over form flashing alternate blue LEDs at cars pretending to be pulling them over in her white Fairlane. 2nd or 3rd car she tried it on was an unmarked car.


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