Nope, just making a point but the KB internet kangaroo court has already started.Originally Posted by breakaway
All cirumstances are considered before charging the perpetrator. Are you being deliberately obtuse?
troglodytam extraordinaire
Nope, just making a point but the KB internet kangaroo court has already started.
Of an enviable height
And is this hypothetical 'breakdown' like most, i.e. the result of ignoring vehicle maintenance for umpteen thousand km, or perhaps running out of petrol?
Forum whore
How often does a car break down in such a way that you can't get to the shoulder?
one placenta
....four hundred dollar fine....
Anarchic Wild Child
She is reincarnated as a biker?
What would you suggest as a sentence?
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
The Majestic Metal Wizard
This is a toughy,
On the one hand - we could say that the motorcyclist was not maintaining correct following distances or paying attention and that the sentance is very harsh.
on the other - who actively looks at what other vehicles are doing? instead most of us would be looking ahead to anticipate a hazard - having someone randomly slam on the breaks for no observable reason would probably make most of us impact - because we would not have see anything that would cause someone to initiate an emergency stop
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Hardcore Punk
Remind me never to ride with you.
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.
The Majestic Metal Wizard
You wouldn't be able to handle the ManOwaR playing when I ride....Remind me never to ride with you.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Hardcore Punk
POOF.
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
Forum whore
Looks like a 'big' highway and she stopped in the fast lane. They have higher speed limits on some of those roads no? Laws are probably different for stopping there too (like how you get fined for holding up traffic on bridges here).
Not really different from people who go to jail for accidentally shooting someone in my mind, it's just complete absence of common sense is more accepted on the road for whatever reason.
Extreme sentence and sucks it was because she was trying to do a nice thing, however two people are dead through a tragically stupid decision so a kinda stupid judgement is just carrying on the trend, but I understand where they were coming from with it.
Forum whore
Yeah, I love metal, but Manowar is pretty fucking gay.
sdkfz
It's difficult.
The newspaper (DomPost) reported the bike was doing something like 120 in a 90 zone. (Dunno how that was determined, I'm just reporting what was reported).
So the guy seems to have contributed to his own death (and his pillion). His Wife was slower, and didn't crash.
And yes, the obstruction could have been for any number of other reasons - fallen tree, breakdown ... We all need to be prepared for the unexpected.
However, in this case, stopping on the road was not required, and was a deliberate action that created a specific danger that didn't need to exist.
(I teach my Family: run over the Animal. Your safety before the safety of the dog/cat/duck ...)
So, she needs to be punished, but some knee-jerk "throw away the key" reaction is not warranted.
(Was she stopped around some blind corner? Or did she jam the brakes on in front of people?)
Measure once, cut twice. Practice makes perfect.
salty dog
In ENZED it would have been reported slightly different..
speeding bikers killed while trying to run over protected native ducks .
Speed was a factor, and the bikers were also not wearing hi-viz.
Police super pretender blah blah said police would strictly enforce speedlimit, zero tolerance and no excuse.
ACC levies for motorcyclist would also have to increase further to cover the cost.
when will we get the message.?
Opinions are like arseholes: Everybody has got one, but that doesn't mean you got to air it in public all the time....
sdkfz
Just to add detail to my previous post:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...ucks-1.2682200
Not "blaming" the rider, but I do think there's a lesson in there for some of us (me too), and it does indicate a need for balance....
Pauline Volikakis, the wife and mother of the two victims, was in court to hear the verdict.
She was following her family on her own motorcycle when the collision occurred. She was driving more slowly and managed to avoid injury.
...
A provincial police officer testified at the trial that Roy, whose speed was estimated to be from 113 km/h to 129 km/h when he applied his brakes, collided with Czornobaj's car at between 105 km/h and 121 km/h.
The jury was told the speed was higher than the prescribed 90 km/h limit on the road.
...
Measure once, cut twice. Practice makes perfect.
troglodytam extraordinaire
doesn't even matter. the car is stopped.
Every day on the motorway.
A car has stopped some will miss it some will hit it.
Getting sent to jail because someones not paying attention just seems a bit harsh.
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