Speeding facts vs fiction

[Hobbyhorse]

http://www.carbibles.com/speeding_facts.html

[Voltaire]

Its a bit like standing up in the Pub and announcing that Alcohol being bad for you is a myth

[Jantar]

That is a good light hearted description of the truth about speed vs accidents. Although it is UK based it reference information from USA and Canada, and emphisises the important part "When speed limits are increased, the accident rate drops".

[Akzle]

i like speeding

[paturoa]

That is based on interpreting the propoganda etc as that, speeding causes crashes. Which is true and this set of stats says it isn't a big number. I was surprised that booze didn't feature in the stats which is another catch cry.

Listening more closely to the propoganda in the last few years I'm detecting a change of message from, speed causes crashes, to lower speed = lower carnage. Which is also true. The slower the crash the less the injury and death. This for me is also flawed and is a better ambulance at the bottom of the cliff approach. Please can we have more fences at the top.

I'm not seeing a lot of propaganda on the cause of crashes other than, booze, driving age and cell phones.

Every day of my daily dorkland commute, I see several instances of dangerous tail gating, lane changes, red light runners, incompetent driving, brain dead driving, etc. The PTB need to suck it up and add more tricks to the pony on the causes.

Crashes (I refuse to call them accidents) will always happen when there are humans in control, question is how do we minimise that without taking away my freedoms?

[haydes55]

Every day of my daily dorkland
Crashes (I refuse to call them accidents) will always happen when there are humans in control, question is how do we minimise that without taking away my freedoms?

Police could actually ticket bad/dangerous driving (a friend on fb was showing her 2 tickets, one for no seatbelt and one for speeding, the cop said to her "I saw you had no seatbelt, so I looked at my radar, I saw you were speeding so pulled you over" basically, cop would have ignored seatbelt if she wasn't speeding).

Or if you cause one crash, 40 hours community service, start from L plates again for all licenses.

If you cause a second accident 100 hours community service and stand down of 6 months before you can apply for your learners again.

If you are the cause of another accident, your insurance should charge you for all damages caused by your actions, 200 hours community service and a year before you can resit your learners.

If you cause any more accidents in your life, you obviously are a slow learner, lifetime ban of operating any vehicle and jail time.

Peoples lives are dependant on drivers ability. Why is a vehicle allowed to cause more damage than a gun, yet any damage caused by a vehicle is punished less than any damage by a gun?

[Akzle]

Peoples lives are dependant on drivers ability. Why is a vehicle allowed to cause more damage than a gun, yet any damage caused by a vehicle is punished less than any damage by a gun?

because guns are scary and dangerous.
just like cars are safe and sppeding is dangerous.

[The Reibz]

Fact: If you speed you will get to your destination faster

[Voltaire]

Fact: If you speed you will get to your destination faster

If you leave earlier you there on time too

[Scuba_Steve]

If you leave earlier you there on time too

if you leave early & "speed" you'll get there earlier & have more time to relax/play

[The Reibz]

Both Valid points.

The more you speed the less time you spend on the road.
The less time you spend on the road, the less likely you are to have a accident?

[Big Dog]

Police could actually ticket bad/dangerous driving (a friend on fb was showing her 2 tickets, one for no seatbelt and one for speeding, the cop said to her "I saw you had no seatbelt, so I looked at my radar, I saw you were speeding so pulled you over" basically, cop would have ignored seatbelt if she wasn't speeding).

Or if you cause one crash, 40 hours community service, start from L plates again for all licenses.

If you cause a second accident 100 hours community service and stand down of 6 months before you can apply for your learners again.

If you are the cause of another accident, your insurance should charge you for all damages caused by your actions, 200 hours community service and a year before you can resit your learners.

If you cause any more accidents in your life, you obviously are a slow learner, lifetime ban of operating any vehicle and jail time.

Peoples lives are dependant on drivers ability. Why is a vehicle allowed to cause more damage than a gun, yet any damage caused by a vehicle is punished less than any damage by a gun?

The flaw to this argument is the definition of fault. By your standard I would be banned for life and bankrupt. My first few accidents I was deemed to be at fault, not for my actions, because I was on a learner or restricted license.

Each time I was told if I had had a full license I would not have had any blame.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[TheDemonLord]

I have always known speed doesn't kill.



However rapid deceleration spread over a very short time frame is very bad for your health

[jonbuoy]

In 50 years time when we are deemed too reckless/feckless to control a vehicle ourselves I wonder if people will look back and wonder how we we ever accepted 1.2 million people a year dying from car accidents? And some people get nervous about flying!

Why is there no motorway/skid pan training as part of the driving test?

Why are we not tested every 5 years?

[Erelyes]

Why are we not tested every 5 years?

Because half the cunts on the road that got their licence in a weet-bix packet 25 years ago will lose it.

Licence testing ain't great, but some drivers are fuckin atrocious.