Police traffic enforcement inconsistency?

[swarfie]

And apparently the blinding arrows thing is caused by old age. Slowing of the eye muscles reaction time etc. All the more reason to take all you old bastards licences away.

Hey I'm not THAT friggin old ....I just feel like it sometimes

[pritch]

Not all crashes .. I've managed pretty well on my own a few times ...

I think it's possible that you may have missed the intended irony? Maybe we need a dedicated sarcasm smilie?

[swbarnett]

We did that back in 1973. 840ish people died on the roads that year, and it was a catalyst for action.

The trouble is it wasn't given time to settle down. Yes, you'll initially get more deaths and injuries but, in the long term, it'll settle down and you'll have fewer than you would've otherwise.

[swbarnett]

While these fancy ideas might work in a well educated country with intelligent people, we have to suck it up and admit where we are at in NZ.

You need to get out more. People in NZ are no different to anywhere else in the western world. The problem is that the roads have been so dumbed down as to engender a serious drop in the IQ of the average driver.

[swbarnett]

And apparently the blinding arrows thing is caused by old age. Slowing of the eye muscles reaction time etc. All the more reason to take all you old bastards licences away.

I've had the same problem with them ever since the reflective index of the signs was seriously increased in the name of "safety" (around about the same time drivers stopped using the high beam properly).

And my eye reaction time is fine. If I'm blinded by an oncoming car my eyes are back to normal almost immediately after they've passed.

[swbarnett]

I'd rather spend my time enjoying my family and my social time than trying to solve things that won't change.

Which, of course, sums up why they don't change.

[willytheekid]

....The problem is that the roads have been so dumbed down as to engender a serious drop in the IQ of the average driver.

THIS!!! +1

Studys have CLEARLY proven that an engaged driver is a safe driver!....FACT!!
...yet look at our roads!...just take a drive from ChCh to ashburton!, its so damn straight and UN! engaging that people regulary just nod off and Careen off the bloody road!

The road engineers in NZ really do need to be held accountable for the absolute SHIT jobs that they do, fuckers can't even lay new roads (straight boring ones!) without adding so much turps to there mix (for more PROFIT!) that the "road" just washes away within a year!...and potholes**!!...for fucking get it!, my 4yr old kid could fill them in better with his plastic shovel set!.


** no shit, we had a pot hole "repaired" outside our house just over a month ago...repair lasted 3 weeks!(TOPS!!), luckily Charlottes little brother works for a private asphalting company, he filled it in again at my request when picking his kid up one night...and even he said, "holy fuck...there mix has virtualy no bonder?....WOW!...and I thought we where being rip off cunts lol"

....sums it up aye


So how bout some investigation into the quality of NZ's road designers, the shit there curning out, and the companys doing BLANTANTLY sub standard repair work on public roads- (And charging your local council a FORTUNE for "high standard" repairs...your rates folks!)

[buggerit]

THIS!!! +1

Studys have CLEARLY proven that an engaged driver is a safe driver!....FACT!!
...yet look at our roads!...just take a drive from ChCh to ashburton!, its so damn straight and UN! engaging that people regulary just nod off and Careen off the bloody road!

The road engineers in NZ really do need to be held accountable for the absolute SHIT jobs that they do, fuckers can't even lay new roads (straight boring ones!) without adding so much turps to there mix (for more PROFIT!) that the "road" just washes away within a year!...and potholes**!!...for fucking get it!, my 4yr old kid could fill them in better with his plastic shovel set!.


** no shit, we had a pot hole "repaired" outside our house just over a month ago...repair lasted 3 weeks!(TOPS!!), luckily Charlottes little brother works for a private asphalting company, he filled it in again at my request when picking his kid up one night...and even he said, "holy fuck...there mix has virtualy no bonder?....WOW!...and I thought we where being rip off cunts lol"

....sums it up aye


So how bout some investigation into the quality of NZ's road designers, the shit there curning out, and the companys doing BLANTANTLY sub standard repair work on public roads- (And charging your local council a FORTUNE for "high standard" repairs...your rates folks!)

I blame the cunts that sign hese jobs off for payment.

[awayatc]

I blame the cunts that sign hese jobs off for payment.

Where to start ?
So many cunts, one could start up a mega whore house.......

[R650R]

You need to get out more. People in NZ are no different to anywhere else in the western world. The problem is that the roads have been so dumbed down as to engender a serious drop in the IQ of the average driver.

Your wrong.

I did a 2 and a half year back to back test of NZ-UK-NZ driving. The difference is huge.
Sadly most NZ drivers have the attention span of a wombat, no desire to indicate, an aggressive road rage streak that makes the average wife beater look like a relationship counsellor.
Couple that with our national alcohol problem and the competitive/possessive element from our sports obsession making for an inability to share the road even to avoid a collision.

[swbarnett]

Your wrong.

I did a 2 and a half year back to back test of NZ-UK-NZ driving. The difference is huge.
Sadly most NZ drivers have the attention span of a wombat, no desire to indicate, an aggressive road rage streak that makes the average wife beater look like a relationship counsellor.
Couple that with our national alcohol problem and the competitive/possessive element from our sports obsession making for an inability to share the road even to avoid a collision.

People are people the world over. Any apparent difference is due to cultural conditions. Change these and we're all the same.

While I have not much experience of the UK. What I did see in London led me to believe that the only reason the drivers are any better is that they're resigned to going nowhere fast.

I spent 2 years living in Switzerland and, yes, the driving is poles apart from that in NZ currently. The ONLY differences between them and us is that their road rules make sense^* and the public transport is second to none. Given the same here I firmly believe we would be the same. Treat people as you want them to be, not necessarily as they are.


^*Their equivalent of the road code even stated that some rules don't always make sense (traffic jams on tight mountain roads for example). In such cases it said for the drivers to work it out among themselves.

[thepom]

No the problem here in NZ is not enough driver education, when you have such a simple test to drive or ride a vehicle with minimum education its no wonder the standard of driving here is so low....

[swbarnett]

No the problem here in NZ is not enough driver education, when you have such a simple test to drive or ride a vehicle with minimum education its no wonder the standard of driving here is so low....

Education only goes so far. Yes, it's important but what's more important is to be constantly refreshing the skills every driver needs. You can't do that on "dumb", boring roads.

[willytheekid]

...making for an inability to share the road even to avoid a collision.

So true!, whitnesses a slow motion crash at the supermarket last week that sums that up perfectly!...and I truely mean slow motion!

Guy just pulled out infront of another car (turned right to go the same direction as the oncoming car)...neither wanted to stop or give way to the other, or follow basic giveway rules...and they just ever so slowly "mushed" into each other...but they didnt stop there...they keep going for another 10-15mtrs at -5kph crushing and pushing into each others car while tearing bumpers & body work off

I know your not spose to leave the scene of an accident...but with a back pack full of grocerys, the fuck I was hanging around the scene of blatant stupidty!

...that all transpired INSIDE a supermarket carpark lot...Imagine the damage those two morons do on the road!


Ride Safe KBers.

[pritch]

Lack of proper driver education is a major contributor to our crap driving. I was in court one day (discharged) and had to sit through a whole parade of people appearing for not having, nor ever held, a driving licence. So never mind how easy it is to get a licence, there's a significant proportion of the population have no intention of ever getting one.

One reason for there being so many appearing in court may be that, as a type, they are visually easy to identify, that and the fact that they would mostly be driving heap-of-shit cars means even the most unenthusiastic cop could boost their figures without much effort. Probably get some bonus points for no WoF or rego as well.