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    Police traffic enforcement inconsistency?

    A couple of days ago I was reading about the Dutch businessman who killed 3 people down in Canterbury.
    The night before he crashes a rental. He gets another rental, the next morning and gets a speeding ticket. Then he runs a stop sign and kills 3 people.
    No jail time. The judge says it will not do any good. He bans or disqualifies him( sorry forgot which exactly) for 15 months. Hay, he does not even have an Nz license to be disqualified. Oh and its all,ok because he paid some cash up front to the victims families.

    All while this is going on police are out there handing out tickets left right and centre to ordinary people who may have just sped a bit to much but no harm done.

    Yes I agree that speed kills. That's all speed from 10 kph to 200 kph whatever. Speed,is relative to the conditions.
    But I certainly do not agree with all the subjective propaganda being feed to us by the police, and there reasonings behind there law enforcement techniques. But I digress........

    The seems to be a lack of consistency. I used to drive the Milford road. A classic example,of a road where there was lots of accidents by tourist drivers. A road where if there was more education to those tourists it clear that a majority of the accidents would not occur. Also more of a police presence into Milford would help big time as well.
    I had a bit to do with the Designated Milford road copper. He was frank, when I spoke with him. I asked why all,the Te Anau police were always out on the straight roads on the way to Queenstown "policing" ( that's giving out speeding tickets and lots of them) when all the accidents where on the road into Milford. His basic words to the effect was he is expected to give out a certain amount of tickets. No mention of a quota though!
    And spending time on the Milford road he could not do that. Now I reckon he would drive into Milford maybe once a month for god sake. Even though that's were the majority of crashes where.

    Any how, Back to the point I want to make.

    It seems to me that there is a lot of inconsistency out there with the policing on our roads.
    This is being driven by enforcement that is way to tough on minor infringements.

    Also big inconsistencies when it comes to sentencing people who have "really broken the rules."

    Just some thoughts........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitdion View Post
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    I had a bit to do with the Designated Milford road copper. He was frank, when I spoke with him. I asked why all,the Te Anau police were always out on the straight roads on the way to Queenstown "policing" ( that's giving out speeding tickets and lots of them) when all the accidents where on the road into Milford. His basic words to the effect was he is expected to give out a certain amount of tickets. No mention of a quota though!
    And spending time on the Milford road he could not do that. Now I reckon he would drive into Milford maybe once a month for god sake. Even though that's were the majority of crashes where.........
    Every time I travel between Alexandra and Hamilton I see exactly the same thing. Lots of traffic enforcement on the easy sections of road, very little in the areas where you really have to concentrate.
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    Been to Queenstown 3 times in the last 2 weeks and seen a total of 9 police cars between 5 rivers and Queenstown, 2 of those on 2 separate occasions were parked in the jollys pass rest area.
    No doubt eating donuts, the bastards. I may stop on my next trip, and see if they have any spare donuts. I like donuts.

    And I thought that cops name was Jim, not Frank.
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    that was a ridiculous sentence. Most are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitdion View Post
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    Yes I agree that speed kills.....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Been to Queenstown 3 times in the last 2 weeks and seen a total of 9 police cars between 5 rivers and Queenstown,nk:
    That's pretty standard on most days. I have driving many k's all over Nz on a commercial basis, and I reckon it's the most policed road in Nz. Especially when you consider when comparing numbers of vehicles to busy north island roads. It's a joke!

    The politicians, and the police thru subjective propaganda are turning people,who commit minor driving offense into publicly perceived criminals.

    What a waste of time and money! People,will always die on our roads.
    It sad yes! But unavoidable. We are humans not robots!

    Stop,wasting money on the hierarchy who who just want to,justify there jobs, stop,wasting money on over policing.
    The are better ways to get messages thru!

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    Meh, I see more police traffic between Mataura and winton than that in a day sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Meh, I see more police traffic between Mataura and winton than that in a day sometimes.
    Maybe we have to give the coppers some real work to do! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitdion View Post
    Maybe we have to give the coppers some real work to do! LOL
    Maybe some of us are.
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    I recently did 6000km including a lap round the SI and I saw more cops between Wellie and Bulls than the whole of the SI so quit moaning you lucky lucky bartards ( and your ones give a friendly flash of the red and blues)
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    Quote Originally Posted by buggerit View Post
    I recently did 6000km including a lap round the SI and I saw more cops between Wellie and Bulls than the whole of the SI so quit moaning you lucky lucky bartards ( and your ones give a friendly flash of the red and blues)
    That's because they are hiding up In the trees trying to get a photo of you crossing the centre line. You need to keep a better eye out. LOL
    Anyhow, what sentence do you think the Dutchman should have got?

    Maybe if they had put him in jail for a few months, to pay for it the coppers could have handed out a few more tickets. Maybe bought done the speeding threshold! LOL

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    I haven't been to TeAnau or Milford and I generally try to stay away from Queenstown unless I'm going to Cardrona or whatever. On one of my SI tours though the radar detector went off in the Lewis pass on the way to the West Coast and then stayed quiet until just north of Dunedin. Three days without a cop. Wonderful.

    On that particular trip I stopped and had a coffee with SD and his lady while passing through the Riviera of the South, but for the purposes of this discussion that doesn't count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitdion View Post
    Anyhow, what sentence do you think the Dutchman should have got?
    A month working as an orderlies assistant in ChCh hospital on top of what he got plus compulsory driver training at his own cost before he is allowed back on NZ roads(after his 15 month suspension)
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    Quote Originally Posted by buggerit View Post
    plus compulsory driver training at his own cost before he is allowed back on NZ roads
    Yes, because that will certainly make him see the stop sign next time. Can't think why New Zealanders do it all the time what with our rigorous driver training.

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