Northland 80 km limit?

[Lou Girardin]

Apparently Northland roads incur costs, (accidents, etc), at a far greater rate than most other provinces. So one of the Plod managers is proposing an 80 km/h limit for most of their roads.
This probably seems easier and more profitable than catching the drunks, unlicenced drivers, crap cars, etc that really cause their road toll.
It really does seem that these Transit NZ, LTSA and Plod cretins are determined to impose an 80 km limit by stealth.
And if that doesn't work, 70 or 60 or 50 or a man with a red flag.

[BugSplat]

Would they not be better off swab testing what seems like ½ of the population up there that’s already driving around at 80 ! … all the resulting disqualifications, could halve the traffic density & thus increase the safety of the remaining un- hazed motoring public ?

On a more serious note it’s a fact that an 80km limit would reduce the amount of attention people give to the motoring task at hand, & accordingly actually increase the accident rate ! Just ask any insurance company how many claims they get for accidents in carparks under 10 KPH !

Sounds like they’re running out of ‘criminals’ to tax for exceeding 100 so want to increase their tax take by labeling anyone delusional enough to believe they can control a motor vehicle beyond 80 kph a criminal.
That said I’m sure that they’ll still believe that having flashing lights & a siren on a vehicle makes it immune from the forces of law & physics.

It would waste fuel… my bike isn’t very happy pulling top gear at 100 KM if
Limited to 80 would be riding around in 2nd / 3rd using as much or more fuel per minuet than in 5th / 6th at (or about) 100 KM but any trip has just increased in time by 20% which would likely also increase transport & many other business costs by a similar percentage.

Which begs the question who did this alleged officer bribe to sit their IQ test for them to qualify for admission to the roadside taxation force?

[spudchucka]

It won't happen!!

This is just another of Lou's worthless "The LTSA, Police & Govt are braindead and I know better because I write dozens of letters to newspapers" threads.

[rettun]

It won't happen!!

This is just another of Lou's worthless "The LTSA, Police & Govt are braindead and I know better because I write dozens of letters to newspapers" threads.

It better f*#kn not
The 80 zone from orewa to puhoi is bad enough. Maybe people should just learn to drive slowly on roads theyre unfimilar with and then there'd be less accidents. Why punish everyone for some peoples lack of common sence. I can drive comfortably from orewa to wellsford at 100km/h in a car.

Its the clowns that think because one person can do it everyone can, like when a porsche was tailgating me at 100, so i lead him into a 35 corner at 100 and he all of a sudden got the idea that just because he has a porsche doesnt mean hes god..

Maybe some of the revenue gathered from tickets should subsidise driver training/actual hands on training not like the $120 street talk course which you dont even have to get into a car to take/pass which takes 6 months off your restricted licence time :spudwhat:

[bikerboy]

It better f*#kn not
...... Why punish everyone for some peoples lack of common sence. I can drive comfortably from orewa to wellsford at 100km/h in a car.:

Because the Government and Plod managers are braindead. Doing their job properly requires effort and intelligence, therefore a blanket dumbing down of the rules is easier, and less work.

And just because one thinks poorly of the traffic poolice doesn't mean one isn't "over it" or a "letter writting" nut case, Spud. On the contrary it shows intelligent, independent, critical thinking..........but then the poolice arent trained for that kinda thing are they?

[spudchucka]

but then the poolice arent trained for that kinda thing are they?

How the hell would you know??

[marty]

This probably seems easier and more profitable than catching the drunks, unlicenced drivers, crap cars, etc that really cause their road toll.
It really does seem that these Transit NZ, LTSA and Plod cretins are determined to impose an 80 km limit by stealth.
And if that doesn't work, 70 or 60 or 50 or a man with a red flag.

hang on - when mr plod is out there catching drunks, unlicenced drivers, crap cars, etc, and unfortunately catching a few speeders too, you fucking well winge about that too - maybe you could come up with a better suggestion instead of bleating for your own self fulfilling purpose...

[Lou Girardin]

Self-fulfilling purpose?
When did I whinge about actually catching drunks, as distinct from checkpoints at 11.00AM on weekdays or telling legal drivers that they've failed 'youth'. Or actually checking unsafe vehicles rather than a crusory look at reg and WOF. Try reading the posts Marty.
Why are you reading my posts then Spud? I would have thought I'd be on your ignore list by now.
It was actually a member of the Police brains trust that made the 80 km/h suggestion.
Do you guys ever get embarrassed at being led by these half-wits?

[marty]

Self-fulfilling purpose?
When did I whinge about actually catching drunks, as distinct from checkpoints at 11.00AM on weekdays or telling legal drivers that they've failed 'youth'. Or actually checking unsafe vehicles rather than a crusory look at reg and WOF. Try reading the posts Marty.
Why are you reading my posts then Spud? I would have thought I'd be on your ignore list by now.
It was actually a member of the Police brains trust that made the 80 km/h suggestion.
Do you guys ever get embarrassed at being led by these half-wits?

oh i've read your posts lou, and i've yet to see some reasoned argument from you as to how traffic law should be modified for the greater good. catching drunks is easy, it's just that sometimes other people get in the way - it's like catching druggies - sometimes people NOT carrying drugs, or carrying a little bit and being told 'another joint and you'd be getting locked up' get in the way.

all you do is bitch about what (appears) to be happening to EVERYONE, but the reality is, that even when you were in the MOT, and when those of us got shite tickets in our anglias for having a headlight out, and weren't pleasured with the luxury of discretion, that we paid our bills and got on with it. maybe it's time you did too.

[spudchucka]

Why are you reading my posts then Spud?

They provide a great source of amusement!

I would have thought I'd be on your ignore list by now.

I'm not that shallow. As far as I'm concerned you are entitled to speak your mind and I'm entitled to let everyone else now how full of shit you are.

It was actually a member of the Police brains trust that made the 80 km/h suggestion.

So what! Does that mean it will happen without opposition from other interested parties? Of course not! However it does provide you another opportunity to engage in your pathetic small mans point scoring obsession thing you have going on in your universe.

Do you guys ever get embarrassed at being led by these half-wits?

I'd only be embarrassed if I was being led by a F-wit like you!

[spudchucka]

but then the poolice arent trained for that kinda thing are they?

Still waiting.............

[Antallica]

mmm you have to go like 80km/h if not lower in some of our roads anyway.... nice and twisty

Go Northland!

[NotaGoth]

Weird how a simple post can turn into complete and total nasty SHIT...





80ks.. all I can say is.. "thats just stupid.." honestly yeah how many crashes in northland are from drunk drivers...?

Where I live most crashes are caused by drunks.. and poorly maintained roads.... I repeat "poorly maintained roads" I don't know who would agree..

"Each to their own.."

But yeah what would I know..

[mini_me]

Where I live most crashes are caused by drunks.. and poorly maintained roads.... I repeat "poorly maintained roads" I don't know who would agree..

speaking of poorly maintained roads anyone riden the whangarei -> ngunguru road recently a couple of those right handers have gone to absolute shit

[Lou Girardin]

The reason it turns to nasty shit is that there are some members of the Police that are not coping with the change from one of the most respected occupations to one that is creating serious loathing among much of the population.
Admittedly that is the fault of the cretins running the Police; but, unlike much of the UK Police rank and file, ours do not have the guts to publicly condemn the tax grab and misallocation of their resources.
So, by their silence they stand condemned.