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    Thumbs up ACC levies to be slashed - hope this includes bikes

    Hi,

    As part of the Government's "try and buy back some of the totally pissed-off voters" budget of 2014, it seems there are plans to slash motor vehicle ACC levies from next year.

    Pray this includes finally restoring motorcycle ACC levies back to sane levels.

    (To be fair, this should be geared to insurance data based on accident statistics for each make and model of bike, rather than those crude categories of 0-50cc, 51-250cc, 251-600cc, 601cc+ which didn't even consider the type of bike at all, or its crash stats.)

    Fingers crossed, aye?

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    cross your fingers all you like...........

    we will never get unfucked.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by aum108 View Post
    (To be fair, this should be geared to insurance data based on accident statistics for each make and model of bike, rather than those crude categories of 0-50cc, 51-250cc, 251-600cc, 601cc+ which didn't even consider the type of bike at all, or its crash stats.)

    Fingers crossed, aye?
    And ... if ACC statistics show accident numbers are higher with over that 601 figure ... you would believe the Rego costs (ACC Levy included) be appropriate then .. ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by aum108 View Post
    To be fair, this should be geared to insurance data based on accident statistics for each make and model of bike,
    Actually, to be as fair as it's design brief intended it'd have fuck all to do with make and model of bike.

    Or any other risk denominator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    cross your fingers all you like...........

    we will never get unfucked.....
    A few letters to Judith Collins from bikers, each saying something like "my vote tends to swing between National and Labour, but your decision to reform the anomalies with ACC biker premiums would definitely secure my vote, and that of a lot of my friends", might pissibly make a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by aum108 View Post
    might pissibly make a difference
    You did not mean to but you got it right. Piss chance of making a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aum108 View Post
    A few letters to Judith Collins from bikers, each saying something like "my vote tends to swing between National and Labour, but your decision to reform the anomalies with ACC biker premiums would definitely secure my vote, and that of a lot of my friends", might pissibly make a difference
    Judith Colins has more on her plate to save than the financial gain of a few hundred thousand bikers ... her seat in Parliament for one ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aum108 View Post
    A few letters to Judith Collins from bikers, each saying something like "my vote tends to swing between National and Labour, but your decision to reform the anomalies with ACC biker premiums would definitely secure my vote, and that of a lot of my friends", might pissibly make a difference
    so how is the letter going?

    be sure and post up the reply from Judith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    so how is the letter going?

    be sure and post up the reply from Judith.
    Here's the letter below. I will post any replies I receive.


    Attn: The Honourable Judith Collins, ACC Minister

    Dear Minister,

    I note that the 2014 Budget allows for some reduction in ACC levies, including those paid by motor vehicle owners.

    This feels like a good occasion to draw to your attention a severe anomaly with current vehicle ACC levies, in relation to those applied to motorcycles.

    The current motorcycle ACC levies regime, both in itself and in comparison to car levies, is unjust on many levels, and is overdue for review and rationalisation.

    My main objections to the current charges are:

    1. Assumption that fault for accidents lies mainly with motorcyclists

    The current regime is based on the premise that since motorcyclists have a much higher per capita accident rate, that they should pay more for their ACC coverage. However, this approach fails to acknowledge that for a significant proportion of motorcycle crashes, fault actually lies with other vehicles, namely cars and trucks, involved in these crashes.

    2. Simplistic rates based on engine size

    This is a bizarre blunt instrument that fails to consider the type of motorcycle. For example, a two-stroke 250cc sport motorcycle is far riskier than a mellow 650cc cruiser motorcycle, yet the ACC levy paid for the 250cc two stroke sport bike is much lower than that paid for the sedate 650cc cruiser.

    Variations in ACC levies for motorcycles should ideally be informed by insurance tables for individual motorcycle makes and models, which have evolved over time to reflect risk with maximum possible accuracy.

    Yours sincerely

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    How do you spell deja vu?

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    Can't remember...but have seen it before..
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    FAT CHANCE! Just like Collins.
    I heard she got caught by NZ Customs ,on her way back from her Chinese holiday, with 40kg of crack.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    FAT CHANCE! Just like Collins.
    I heard she got caught by NZ Customs ,on her way back from her Chinese holiday, with 40kg of crack.....
    Sheesh...I'd av thought her crack would've weighed more than that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aum108 View Post
    Here's the letter below. I will post any replies I receive.

    Attn: The Honourable Judith Collins, ACC Minister
    Dear Minister,
    (yada yada)
    Yours sincerely
    Here's my first reply:

    Good afternoon

    On behalf of Hon Judith Collins, Minister for ACC, I acknowledge your email below. You can expect to receive a response from the Minister in due course.

    Regards
    Nancy Robbie

    Nancy Robbie | ACC Private Secretary
    Office of Hon Judith Collins | Minister of Justice | Minister for ACC | Minister of Ethnic Affairs | MP for Papakura

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    Quote Originally Posted by aum108 View Post
    Here's my first reply:

    Good afternoon

    On behalf of Hon Judith Collins, Minister for ACC, I acknowledge your email below. You can expect to receive a response from the Minister in due course.

    Regards
    Nancy Robbie

    Nancy Robbie | ACC Private Secretary
    Office of Hon Judith Collins | Minister of Justice | Minister for ACC | Minister of Ethnic Affairs | MP for Papakura
    I think your response should be something like this:

    Dear Nancy,

    Thank you for your prompt response - Do you take it up the Arse?

    Thanks
    Demon


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