Pootler
So whats the best Sports tourer currently?
New of course.
Shall we start with the old Bandit 1250? This has been on the market unchanged for 9 years now. And the current one on special is the GSX1250FA.
Strong reliable bikes that with a few mods can make 125hp and mid 80s flbs torque. Chuck some luggage at it and you can carry anything you would need.
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BMW Motorrad
How deep is your pocket? I can think of couple of BMWs..
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Forum whore
having just been looking around I would have to say the Sports Tourer idea is becoming less "Sport bike set up for touring" and more "adventure styled bike set up for road touring". Not many new models in the Sport Touring bracket really, unless you count the Super Duke GT and its not that new. Them and nekkids seem to be where the manufacturers are focusing.
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Pootler
R1200r thingy or the S1000xr?
Im not buying one, say cost is no object but value is. You can buy 2 Bandits for one BMW.
Pootler
SDR GT could be called a Hyper-Sports Tourer?
But yes fair point.
BMW Motorrad
Mmmm you are right... Then best bang for buck Sports Tourer? I'm gonna call Yamaha MT09 Tracer. Under $20k. Fancy electronics, full luggage and bonkers engine.
Your move.
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and yes, spend well over $30k and the world is your oyster
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Pootler
Forgot about that one. What about the Kawaka Z1000sx?
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Then why stick with newAlternatively, value of owning two identical bikes is no more than just own one, ie, the number you can ride at a time.
Yeh, I'm busting chops cos "what's the best..." is going to be subjective, thus should not be subject to just one subject's constraints
Oh, and it's obviously a heavily modified VFR800...
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The Flying Dutchman
As I haven't owned all of them I can't give an opinion on which one is ultimately the best.
But I have owned a Bandit 1250 and currently own a Concours so can give my opinion on those two.
My Bandit was the GSF1250SA with full touring package. Full fairings, 3 case hard luggage, touring screen and had aftermarket heated grips and an auto chain oiler.
It was a bloody awesome bike that did everything quite well but it was not a good as the Concours.
For two up touring with full luggage, the Concours has more space, a better seat for rider and passenger, it has quite a bit more grunt, and a bigger fuel tank and range between fill ups. There is no drive chain. It has the heated grips built in. I has a nice dash which displays just about everything you need to know. I love the tyre pressure sensors on the Concours. The Concours has far better weather and wind protection than the Bandit.
The only slight advantage the Bandit has over the Concours in my opinion is the lighter weight of the Bandit. And then that only makes a difference when wheeling the bike around and riding at very slow speeds. Beyond walking pace the weight of the Concours just disappears.
Both bikes are incredibly reliable.
If I was looking for a replacement for the Concours, an FJR1300 would very likely be the next bike.
Hardcore Biker
yep, love the VFR800 but why does it have to be heavily modified? Is that a dig at NZSpokes, as in to carry his rather heavy load about + his b1tch Ed as pillion?
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First you have to define a Sports Tourer (if you're getting one). This could be anything from the Superduke GT (minimal wind protection but still has luggage), actually, the 990 Supermoto T could also be in that category, through to an ST1300/Concours 14. I wouldn't define those last two as tourers, as that's Goldwing / K1600GT territory. Others might say full dress means tourer.
Just to slice that cake a little more, you also have Adventure Tourers, like the R1200GS. Stats wise in the UK, most actually never leave the tarmac, but their upright ergos are favoured over the R1200RT for example.
For me, it would probably be an S1000XR, but there is no way I could have that and my licence at the same time
Pootler
Ewwww really? By heavily modified you mean a VFR1200?
Pootler
ST and Concurs are more straight tourers? Not much sporty about them?First you have to define a Sports Tourer (if you're getting one). This could be anything from the Superduke GT (minimal wind protection but still has luggage), actually, the 990 Supermoto T could also be in that category, through to an ST1300/Concours 14. I wouldn't define those last two as tourers, as that's Goldwing / K1600GT territory. Others might say full dress means tourer.
Just to slice that cake a little more, you also have Adventure Tourers, like the R1200GS. Stats wise in the UK, most actually never leave the tarmac, but their upright ergos are favoured over the R1200RT for example.
For me, it would probably be an S1000XR, but there is no way I could have that and my licence at the same time
BMW call the S1000xr a Adventure Tourer?
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If you want it to be the best, then you gotta add some mods. None of this one size fits all racked suit type of bullshit, gotta go see a taylor at least
Better than all the IL4 beigery anyway. Tourer should be something you enjoy riding for hours on end, not something designed to get you from A to B the most efficiently or economically. And no, the 1200 is irredeemably heavy.
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